Another twenty

[FrankCrank]

Here you go @EltonFrog , couldn’t use the head badge I originally wanted to as not drilling the head tube as holes didn’t align.
Cheated with a modern stick on aluminium copy

Now completed with head badge and stand
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Excellent results Mr. Roadie.
It looks less of a citrus overload with the badge and stickers applied, and the bag looks the part for sure.
Hope you can enjoy the fruit (ha ha) of you labours now, with many happy hours of riding

 

[roadrash]

I have put it on a diet today and fitted new alloy wheels and also gone single speed, I dont have any scales but quite a weight difference

 

[FrankCrank]

I have put it on a diet today and fitted new alloy wheels and also gone single speed, I dont have any scales but quite a weight difference
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Nice one Mr Roadie - are they 451mm wheels?

 

[roadrash]

@FrankCrank
https://www.tradeinn.com/bikeinn/en...UE3wOCyoEI1ZnFmjEg_aem_UCBCDnC8L6hh7Lh2eAXy5Q

 

[FrankCrank]

I have put it on a diet today and fitted new alloy wheels and also gone single speed, I dont have any scales but quite a weight difference
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Spotted these a while back, was thinking of doing an ally rim conversion on one of mine

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/39520302...bzzZSF/Z0FDpy1C976YJqtdOjO|tkp:Bk9SR6rSsoiqZA

Can build up new wheels using the original hubs, but most likely the spokes are shot, so new sets and nipples needed. Then new tyres and rim tape, and that cheap charlie bike starts to escalate in cost. I may still do it, just for fun, when feeling a bit flush.

 

[roadrash]

I know what you mean regarding cost, I look at it this way, there’s plenty worse things I could be spending my money on, if it makes you happy and you can afford it then go for it I say 👍

 

[figbat]

Spotted these a while back, was thinking of doing an ally rim conversion on one of mine

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/395203023718?_nkw=451+rims&itmmeta=01J588CN4EA16DRNG2ZS9SEYB2&hash=item5c03ef9366:g:WHQAAOSwKEVgjBco&itmprp=enc:AQAJAAAA4HoV3kP08IDx+KZ9MfhVJKk+KCHZQ+DpOxlZcWNPWCYt1pBFkPwg2k3asDNCdM90v5xSefhHNqjHT568nwgtJ5oG6OPzkZFC1LVlzRHjBbErL3j2eUFlDosiwIVhpLgc2oa4lKYaN9w3zuBcXZH6Mu73xjB8uN8SZLu6lZ0kqnxxOpdarKO2lgw9+zAlzqNgESta4cxGu4zJSnMuWTfKkd8i1/hW90lZZauJKdVxol32OdBN7QLo0u/mssj/nxLkjBxZqe3se9nZpJ5ug7bzzZSF/Z0FDpy1C976YJqtdOjO|tkp:Bk9SR6rSsoiqZA

Can build up new wheels using the original hubs, but most likely the spokes are shot, so new sets and nipples needed. Then new tyres and rim tape, and that cheap charlie bike starts to escalate in cost. I may still do it, just for fun, when feeling a bit flush.

I did exactly this on my old Dawes Kingpin. I laced a pair of alloy rims to the original hubs (in the process changing the rim size from 440 to 451 to make tyre choice wider) which obviously needed new spokes and nipples. I did it for the experience as much as anything - my first wheel builds. In this regard it was priceless as I found the experience enjoyable and was proud of the results. It also improved the braking immeasurably, especially in the wet. I recently sold that bike and never came close to recovering the costs I had put into it, but it didn't bother me in the slightest.

 

[FrankCrank]

I did exactly this on my old Dawes Kingpin. I laced a pair of alloy rims to the original hubs (in the process changing the rim size from 440 to 451 to make tyre choice wider) which obviously needed new spokes and nipples. I did it for the experience as much as anything - my first wheel builds. In this regard it was priceless as I found the experience enjoyable and was proud of the results. It also improved the braking immeasurably, especially in the wet. I recently sold that bike and never came close to recovering the costs I had put into it, but it didn't bother me in the slightest.

Never knew there was a 440 size as well. Is this unique to a KP?

 

[roadrash]

Can build up new wheels using the original hubs, but most likely the spokes are shot, so new sets and nipples needed. Then new tyres and rim tape, and that cheap charlie bike starts to escalate in cost. I may still do it, just for fun, when feeling a bit flush.

as long as the rear isnt a sturmey archer three speed, they are 36 spoke arent they

 

[EltonFrog]

as long as the rear isnt a sturmey archer three speed, they are 36 spoke arent they

Not all of them.

 

[figbat]

Never knew there was a 440 size as well. Is this unique to a KP?

Not sure it’s unique, but it is a quirk of the KP.

 

[FrankCrank]

as long as the rear isnt a sturmey archer three speed, they are 36 spoke arent they

All the shopper bikes that have come into my possession have been 28h front and rear. I think the larger wheeled bikes of the era would have 36h, or maybe 40h.