Oh the thread has been wonderfully informative and entertaining thank you
@Blue Hills
Even the digressions are fun... and only one of the digressions was taking the subject *way* over there somewhere down Galveston way, I mean calling someone's bike ugly is always going to generate pages of friction!
I still haven't quite settled, the Spa and the Genesis are the clear front runners for me but Ridgeback and Dawes are still possibilities too. I'm not in so much of a rush to need a decision by tomorrow or anything.
The big influence of the thread so far has been the encouragement to go to disc brakes, I am sold on that so thanks everyone who were advocates.
Oh and sorry for using the "G" word... I've been off CC for a while so perhaps I'm not up on the latest faux pas. I was formerly (some years ago) teased on here for having a road bike with a third chainring and that was the precise phrase bandied about!