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If the cyclist had already seen them, sounded the horn, then deliberately drove into them and reacted in the same tone of bored contempt as this idiot driver then I'd say the cyclist was as much of a petulant bully as the knobber driver.
 

mjr

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@mjray this strikes me as the sort of thing you might know.
The legal definition of what's usually called a pavement? It's "any footpath or causeway by the side of any road made or set apart for the use or accommodation of foot passengers" in the Highways Act 1835, which is what prohibits pavement cycling thanks to some later law defining not-yet-invented-as-we-know-it pedal cycles as carriages.

And I don't think pavement cycling excuses turning across them recklessly but it's been a while since I watched the video.
 

mjr

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No. The footway goes round the bend of the junction it absolutely does not continue across the junction. There is another footway on the other side or the road across the junction.
The above is how I understand it. The law and junction layouts should be changed IMO. Footways and cycle tracks should continue across more minor roads but they don't yet.

Ironically, this means that once the cyclist entered the carriageway, he was technically no longer doing anything wrong, doesn't it? :laugh:
 

Crandoggler

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It absolutely blows my mind that people on here are arguing the case for the cyclist. Whilst the driver should have checked his blind spot, the cyclist absolutely should have given way. Cycle path or not. It's like a pedestrian walking out in the road when they've seen a car indicating and turning down it. Then wondering why they've been run over.

I'm teaching my daughter how to cross the road at the moment. Maybe these morons need a lesson of looking left and right before crossing.

When will people start using common sense instead of riding with an agenda to get into as many arguments with people and tonnes of motorised metal.
 

Lonestar

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How is this any different to a pedestrian stepping of the curb without looking? Guy on the bike is an idiot.

Pedestrians generally don't look properly when crossing the road in London so the best way is to be patient and let them cross thus avoiding an incident.Same with anything else at a guess.We know the guy on the bike is an idiot but so is the motorist who could have easily avoided this if he could be bothered.It takes two to tango.

Why do they think that signalling is a passport to do as they want and covers them for everything...Numerous times I've had this where they've overtaken and thrown a left though not so much recently as I usually watch out for it.
 
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Crandoggler

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Once again, the driver knew the cyclist was there. Watch the clip.
The idiot on a bike should have given way before crossing at the mouth of a junction. Do you see many joggers run straight out into the road? The usually slow down and have a cursory glance. Not this fool.

I suppose it would have been OK if he had ridden out into a roundabout also? As of course the motorists using that roundabout would have seen him.

If you don't believe the cyclist was at fault, you're part of the problem on the roads today.
 

winjim

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The idiot on a bike should have given way before crossing at the mouth of a junction. Do you see many joggers run straight out into the road? The usually slow down and have a cursory glance. Not this fool.

I suppose it would have been OK if he had ridden out into a roundabout also? As of course the motorists using that roundabout would have seen him.

If you don't believe the cyclist was at fault, you're part of the problem on the roads today.
A problem to which the solution appears to be to deliberately turn your car into the path of a perceived offender in order to create an unavoidable collision? That's violent vigilantism.
 
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A problem to which the solution appears to be to deliberately turn your car into the path of a perceived offender in order to create an unavoidable collision? That's violent vigilantism.

The cyclist was a complete farkwit the driver simply followed the rules of the road. The cyclist broke the law and then ignored the highway code.
 

winjim

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The cyclist was a complete farkwit the driver simply followed the rules of the road. The cyclist broke the law and then ignored the highway code.
The motorist ignored the highway code which states:

The rules in The Highway Code do not give you the right of way in any circumstance, but they advise you when you should give way to others. Always give way if it can help to avoid an incident.
 
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