And the Nobel prize for literature goes to ...

[MarquisMatsugae]

At the risk of stating the bleedin' obvious, he doesn't get paid for rebelling; he gets paid for his music. Rebelling, per se, is not well paid.

[QUOTE 4532492, member: 259"]It's a mucky job, but someone's got to do it![/QUOTE]

It's not the music that's brought his wealth, it's the whole package of music, show, attitude and pseudo-rebellious positioning. Being a rebel is not well paid. Being a carefully calibrated showman, backed by a publicity machine playing up a rebellious image has worked well for him. As it has for many commercial musicians.

Don't mind me guys,I'm just having a moan today.
And it was Old Bob's turn

 

[MarquisMatsugae]

Yawn. Come on he's hardly gone down the carefully managed pop star route. And if you do think that then you'd have to say his management is pretty rubbish because he's had his fair share of stinkers.

See above

 

[Levo-Lon]

'Pseudo-rebellious positioning'? Pompous much? I think that by saying that you just demonstrate that you don't really know anything much about his career. Maybe you should stick to the classical stuff that you know and understand. 3BM has it right.

spot on @User13710

 

[srw]

Meh. Being patronised for what you haven't said is getting dull. Clearly Dr Zimmerman is one of those elderly and privileged white men who it's getting fashionable to elevate to a pedestal so high that he's beyond criticism. I've got better things to do with my time than beat my head against the wall of people congratulating themselves for sharing the taste of billions others.

 

[Levo-Lon]

Meh. Being patronised for what you haven't said is getting dull. Clearly Dr Zimmerman is one of those elderly and privileged white men who it's getting fashionable to elevate to a pedestal so high that he's beyond criticism. I've got better things to do with my time than beat my head against the wall of people congratulating themselves for sharing the taste of billions others.

yes you do seem busy..lol

 

[Levo-Lon]

The lady knows a thing or two well said @User13710

 

[Drago]

Did Mr Zimmerman ever rebel against Capitalism?

Billy Bragg did, but only to the extent it enhanced his bank balance.

 

[swee'pea99]

Patronising and misquoting. You are doing yourself what you criticise others for doing. I for one have never put Dylan on any kind of pedestal, and there's a lot about his creative output that I can and do criticise. But although there are many artists out there about whom your 'pseudo-rebellious' 'carefully calibrated' criticisms would be accurate, Dylan is not among them. In fact few artists could have done more throughout their careers to alienate whole tranches of their admirers than he has (electric guitars, evangelism, cover versions, terrible films, Christmas ditties, live versions of his own songs that depart so far from the well-loved originals that they're all but unrecognisable), but throughout he has maintained his personal integrity, and has never pandered to commercialism. He has, and has often said that he has, done whatever he felt like doing, and has steadfastly refused to explain himself, maintaining that people can make of it whatever they will. I think it is that honesty and clarity, alongside the sheer beauty of much of his lyric writing, that has led to this award, and it is well deserved in my opinion.

One-hundred-and-eighty!

 

[AndyRM]

[QUOTE 4985199, member: 259"]...Kazuo ishiguro - and for once I've actually read one of the winners' books![/QUOTE]

Great writer, thoroughly deserved.

 

[smutchin]

The Remains of the Day is one of my all-time favourite books ever. Never got round to reading any of his other stuff, although I've got a copy of An Artist of the Floating World knocking around somewhere. Maybe I should try it.

 

[AndyRM]

The Remains of the Day is one of my all-time favourite books ever. Never got round to reading any of his other stuff, although I've got a copy of An Artist of the Floating World knocking around somewhere. Maybe I should try it.

You should, it's really good! Though you could say that about all his novels I suppose.

 

[nickyboy]

[QUOTE 4985199, member: 259"]...Kazuo ishiguro - and for once I've actually read one of the winners' books![/QUOTE]

I've never read anything of his (or hers...I've no idea on what is presumably Japanese name). Is it "accessible" or is it hard work and I'll have to concentrate a lot?

 

[rich p]

You should, it's really good! Though you could say that about all his novels I suppose.

Apart from that weirdly crappy one where they end up chasing gangsters or summink over roof-tops in the Orient.
My recall isn't total, clearly, but it was my least favourite and I can't remember the title.

 

[smutchin]

Is it "accessible" or is it hard work and I'll have to concentrate a lot?

The Remains of the Day is accessible enough, but you will have to concentrate a lot because the key to understanding it lies in perceiving what isn't being said.

 

[AndyRM]

Apart from that weirdly crappy one where they end up chasing gangsters or summink over roof-tops in the Orient.
My recall isn't total, clearly, but it was my least favourite and I can't remember the title.

When We Were Orphans?