Acupuncture

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Yellow Fang

Legendary Member
Location
Reading
Having asked about the Bowen Technique, I am now interested in acupuncture. I read on a website that it can be useful for achilles tendon problems. I hurt my achilles a couple of months ago, and I'm still not sure it's totally better. Has anyone tried acupuncture? What did you think?
 

numbnuts

Legendary Member
I had it when I damaged my spine in an accident, didn’t work for me after 6 months treatment waste of time, good job I wasn’t paying for it
 

ventoux50

Active Member
I do it - works for most patients if its applied appropriately for the presenting problem.

Can be very powerful !

Definitely does work, althoug I recommend it alongside more traditional rehabilitation methods - e.g physio, chiropractic. etc.
 

TrevorM

New Member
Location
Belfast
Acupuncture is very helpful for soft tissue pain and injuries such as this.
But I wouldn't be prepared to say it would help you unless I had examined you.
I suggest you find a qualified and registered local practitioner and go for a consultation.
Look here or here. If you don't start to feel a benefit within 2-3 sessions it probably isn't going to help much.
 

gavintc

Guru
Location
Southsea
I have had it a couple of times. The first time it worked, the second time it did not. There may have been other factors involved - not sure, but I remain open minded about it.
 

ASC1951

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
It worked well for me the first time (whiplash) and made no difference the second time (calf pain).

There is some research evidence that dummy acupuncture, with retracting needles, works just as well - but as Uncle Mort points out, the placebo effect is a real effect.
 

Jaguar

New Member
Location
Norfolk/Suffolk
I tried it for neck pain, did no good at all (and I wasn't a sceptic). TENS and pills don't work on my back/neck pain either though
 

Globalti

Legendary Member
I strained my back muscles last Christmas. Saw a physio but his treatment room and his hands and ultrasound head were freezing and I came out feeling no better. Then I went to South Africa in February for 2 weeks of work then to ride the Cape Argus. The back was still bad so I thought I'd try a local physio. The woman was amazing; her knowledge of anatomy was first class and she bent, prodded and twisted me in ways I never thought possible. At them end of the session she rather shyly suggested some needling, which I declined. I walked out of there like a new man and never had a moment of pain after than, it was quite remarkable. I actually emailed her when I got home to thank her and I wrote that her cure had been down to good solid knowledge of anatomy and good physiotherapy but if I had agreed to the needling, wouldn't we now be attributing the cure to that?
 
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Yellow Fang

Yellow Fang

Legendary Member
Location
Reading
I strained my back muscles last Christmas. Saw a physio but his treatment room and his hands and ultrasound head were freezing and I came out feeling no better. Then I went to South Africa in February for 2 weeks of work then to ride the Cape Argus. The back was still bad so I thought I'd try a local physio. The woman was amazing; her knowledge of anatomy was first class and she bent, prodded and twisted me in ways I never thought possible. At them end of the session she rather shyly suggested some needling, which I declined. I walked out of there like a new man and never had a moment of pain after than, it was quite remarkable. I actually emailed her when I got home to thank her and I wrote that her cure had been down to good solid knowledge of anatomy and good physiotherapy but if I had agreed to the needling, wouldn't we now be attributing the cure to that?

She sounds more like a chiropractor. Perhaps this calls for a new thread.
 

Fiona N

Veteran
She sounds more like a chiropractor. Perhaps this calls for a new thread.

Not so much a chiropractor as a remedial masseur or therapist. These are sort of extreme sports masseurs and fill the gap between physiotherapy and normal sports massage. I go from time to time to a Dutch guy who has a practice in Kendal and it's not for the faint hearted.

One particular issue was 'over-developed hip flexors' from 'bent riding which manifest as tight hip joints and a rather unfortunate tendency to exacerbate my back problems. A sports massage wouldn't really do much for hip flexors as they're deep muscles and a bit tricky to massage directly. But stretching is another matter and the remedial masseur, after a thorough warm up, usually stretches the muscles through an almost unbelievable range (I am naturally hyper mobile, given to doing the splits and walking about in 'the crab' - upward bow, if you do yoga - as a youngster) with my feet ending up behind my head. It's not entirely painless as anyone who practices deep stretching will know - there's a fine line between getting the maximum benefit and hurting yourself. But the results are immediate and long-lasting.

I tend to think remedial therapists like this are very under-used in this country where 'massage' is usually a pathetically gentle stroking with nice smelling oil and candles lit about the room for relaxation, and practiced by beauticians with a very inadequate knowledge of physiology. Having trained as a sports masseur and practiced in the past, I know what sports and remedial masseurs should know and be able to do and, if you haven't actually got an injury but a chronic problem which could result in one, they're the best place to go - usually a good deal cheaper than a fully fledged physio.
 
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Yellow Fang

Yellow Fang

Legendary Member
Location
Reading
I've had sports massages before - eye wateringly painful. More painful probably than acupuncture I'd expect.

Reading up acupuncture on the web, it seems it's most useful for pain relief. Can it actually fix chronic injuries, such as tendonitis?
 

ventoux50

Active Member
I've had sports massages before - eye wateringly painful. More painful probably than acupuncture I'd expect.

Reading up acupuncture on the web, it seems it's most useful for pain relief. Can it actually fix chronic injuries, such as tendonitis?


A good sports massage isn't comfortable in any way - if it's to be effective then the muscle has to be 'worked' deep and the adhesive layers of fascia literally 'torn apart'.

Having said that its VERY effective if performed properly.

As for the acup[uncture then again if administered properly there should be no pain on insertion, just a slight nip where the needle enters.

On its own acupuncture will not 'cure' chronic injuries such as tendonitis, but used intelligently it can be an excellent adjunct to other interventions such as deep tissue / connective tissue massage.
 
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