A metaphorical slap in the face is needed

[downfader]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/h...jority-of-the-obese-deny-being-unhealthy.html

It's not as if we don't get bombarded with info on what's good for us, how to exercise etc. We know that when we look in the mirror if the spare tyre should really go. I have one now, I admit. It just seems illogical that someone who is clearly obese can put their fingers in their ears and sing loudly like this.

What's the solution?

 

[Banjo]

When I was 16 stone at 5ft 9.5 was well into the obesity range. The mental picture I had of myself looked nothing like the fat guy in photographs of myself.

I think the family and friends of obese people are part of the problem sometimes you need to be cruel to be kind.

 

[Chrisc]

When I was 13 1/2 stone at 5-11 my doctor told me I was "a fat bastard". I bought a bike and was 2 stone lighter in 9 months. And much much happier.

 

[Fab Foodie]

It's the food industry
It's their genes
It's their metabolism
It's their big bones
There's no help
It's not their fault and we can't mention they're fat

 

[Chrisc]

Shhh. You said the f word.

 

[srw]

When I was 16 stone at 5ft 9.5 was well into the obesity range. The mental picture I had of myself looked nothing like the fat guy in photographs.

The fat "guy" in the photograph is probably a woman. If you were 16 stone at nearly six foot you did look nothing like her - and not just because you're a cyclingbloke. It's perfectly possible to be 16 stone and fit and healthy.

People are fat because they ingest more calories than they expend. Reversing that is not a difficult problem - but it is an incredibly hard one.

 

[fenlandpsychocyclist]

If its true that each square cm of muscle is three times heavier than each square cm of fat, some of
us on the forum will have legs weighing 30kgs each!!

 

[perplexed]

It's the food industry
It's their genes
It's their metabolism
It's their big bones
There's no help
It's not their fault and we can't mention they're fat

You forgot "It's the meeeja innit".

 

[oldroadman]

It's the food industry
It's their genes
It's their metabolism
It's their big bones
There's no help
It's not their fault and we can't mention they're fat

The other one is - "it's a glandular problem". The gland in question being the one with a hole in the front of the head, and the problem being too much shoved into it.
Simple equation, energy expenditure out - greater than fuel in = defecit and lower weight. However, as has been said, muscle is much heavier than fat, so when Cav, for instance, says he drops to 10.5 stones during the TdF, and is not so tall, then you have to deduce that fast twitch muscle is bulky as you don't see much fat about him. Which is why the specialist climbers all look like refugees from a starvation camp, different body type.

That said, look at some of the modern rugby players, yesterday I watch a 18 stone winger move so fast on his feet, and keep doing it for the full 80 minutes. He would be about 6ft tall, and according to the charts all the medics like to use, was obese. Bet his doctor wouldn't dare tell him that!

 

[Banjo]

The fat "guy" in the photograph is probably a woman. If you were 16 stone at nearly six foot you did look nothing like her - and not just because you're a cyclingbloke. It's perfectly possible to be 16 stone and fit and healthy.

People are fat because they ingest more calories than they expend. Reversing that is not a difficult problem - but it is an incredibly hard one.

I have amended my first post as it was a bit ambiguous, I meant looking at pics of myself not the pic in the link .

Point I was trying to make is that its human nature to become very skilfull at deceiving yourself that all is ok even when the evidence is obvious when you look in the mirror (or at photos of yourself :-) ).

 

[Fab Foodie]

People are fat because they ingest more calories than they expend. Reversing that is not a difficult problem - but it is an incredibly hard one.

I'm almost 'Obese' on the BMI scale and it's purely down to overconsumption .
The second point is incredibly true (having been a skinny boy for most of my life), loosing kgs is harder than anticipated.

 

[screenman]

www.onemorebite-weightloss.com/muscle-to-fat.html

This will be worth a read in explaining away the muscle weighs more myth, it does but only by volume.

 

[GrumpyGregry]

The fat "guy" in the photograph is probably a woman. If you were 16 stone at nearly six foot you did look nothing like her - and not just because you're a cyclingbloke. It's perfectly possible to be 16 stone and fit and healthy.

People are fat because they ingest more calories than they expend. Reversing that is not a difficult problem - but it is an incredibly hard one.

I am walking, running (10km this morning), cycling (at least one 100km ride a month) proof of that.

Fat fit. It is the new black.

 

[Dan B]

www.onemorebite-weightloss.com/muscle-to-fat.html

This will be worth a read in explaining away the muscle weighs more myth, it does but only by volume.

It does in exactly the same way as lead weighs more than e.g. feathers, yes

Most people can cope with the idea that "heavier" in common speech is a shorthand for "more dense". Those that can't, I'd say they were more dense ;-)

 

[downfader]

I'm almost 'Obese' on the BMI scale and it's purely down to overconsumption .
The second point is incredibly true (having been a skinny boy for most of my life), loosing kgs is harder than anticipated.

On the BMI I am obese. I'm 15 stone (actually put a stone on over 2 weeks off at christmas ) The BMI takes no account of physique other than strength and my Dr confirmed that. However I think we all know, deep down, when we've let it go too far.

I've worked out that I've consumed around 1000 more calories than I usually do every day over the last 2 weeks. Gotta love tins of sweets and festive food....