A close shave tonight

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Ian H

Ancient randonneur
She made a mistake and apologised. I'd find it difficult to be too righteous about it.

Riding past a solid thing like a wall, I try to maintain enough room that I could fall without hitting it.
 
That split second decision of do i get my precious car mangled or do i mangle that worthless cyclist and his worthless bike. She chose to save her precious car..

It's not that simple though, every single one of us has an in built sense of self-preservation. When something happens like that, that is really not the rational thought that happens at the time.
 

Globalti

Legendary Member
GtiJ and I were out on Sunday with three Police officers and somebody in a blue Land Rover 90 did the very same thing to us. He was lucky we didn't catch up with him further down the road because one of the three is a particularly well-muscled gentleman with a similarly muscular attitude and he was ready to have strong words with the driver.
 

keithmac

Guru
I've pulled further into the road to stop a similar situation a few times now.

If the gap looks "just enough to squeeze past" they will normally try to take it regardless..

The little islands in the middle of the road seem designed purely to cause cyclists issues, cars come past at 30+mph with no room to spare.

Quite impressed by my wife's driving now, she's probably sick of me mentioning the amount of space cycles need while overtaking!.
 
Drivers get worse when it rains, snows, when the sun comes out, when it's getting dark, when it's coming light...
Sod it they just get worse all the time! :boxing:

There seems to be this idea many have that they can't slow down enough to wait behind a cyclist. It all seems such a big effort, with of course the penis preservation exercise of trying to save face with the driver behind and not be seen to hold up the traffic.
 
The little islands in the middle of the road seem designed purely to cause cyclists issues, cars come past at 30+mph with no room to spare.

As far as I am aware, the point of those little islands is to give cyclists some protection from close-overtakes on narrow roads. It looks as if there is not much appreciation of this! Of course, you must take the lane to make it work, and need to be going a a decent speed on a bike, but I like them.
 

Drago

Legendary Member
Would've been even more to her credit if she hadn't driven like a tool in the first place. It wasn't a mistake, it was a deliberate overtake and she either lacked the skill or common sense (or both) to wait until it was safe to do so.
 

Kosong

Active Member
Location
Bristol
Glad you made it out OK, and hopefully she has learned her lesson and will think of you next time she goes to overtake a cyclist.

IMO, the problem is most drivers don't cycle, and an awful lot of cyclists don't drive. i usually side with a cyclist, just because the car is bigger and more powerful and what does it matter if you have to wait 20 seconds to overtake when you have a big engine, but there are also some really shoot cyclists. Just the other day I was driving my van and a cyclist went behind me and up the outside, two blind spots! If I hadn't been keeping an eye on him in my left wing mirror I may not have seen him at all, frankly idiotic and he overtook for about 10m until I got into 2nd gear and got back ahead. That plus the countless idiots who plough through red lights as if they don't need to follow 'car signals.' Better education for both drivers and cyclists, perhaps with a way of demonstrating what the visibility is like from the other mode of transport (any of the 4x4 twats in Epping up for a cycle down the new road during rush hour? Or red light jumpers fancy sitting in my van and playing 'spot the idiot in the blind spot?' ;) ) would help a bit...but sadly I think you'll always have a number of people who think they know/are the best and that everyone else is inferior. Stay safe out there!
 

Kosong

Active Member
Location
Bristol
hence why i put 'an awful lot' rather than most...in my experience most of the cyclists I know don't drive, then again I'm from London where a driving license is a luxury that a lot can't afford and don't need. My brother is a prime example - he doesn't drive, rarely even gets in a car as none of his friends or family (bar me) drive...he's a great cyclist but wow is he shoot at judging what cars are likely to do. He gets really angry at drivers when actually, some times its his fault/could have helped the situation. We went on a 4 day ride recently and I think it was a real eye opener for him to cycle with a driver (me) who could explain some of the subtler nuances of how cars/vans/lorries work, what visibility is like, and when they are right/wrong. I deffo think there should be more emphasis on getting bikes and cars to understand how the other works. When I did my cycling proficiency test, we were taught to ride on the pavement, now you use a mix of road, pavement and bike paths and I feel some cyclists and a lot of car drivers just aren't thinking about the other when they are using shared space.
 
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