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tom73

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Yes. Legal aid should be picking this up.
If you want to pay for a mega lawyer then fine, but a decent defence team should be free.

Decent defence teams are free his choice to pay.
 
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Yes. Legal aid should be picking this up.
If you want to pay for a mega lawyer then fine, but a decent defence team should be free.
Not sure I agree with Legal Aid should be picking it up, but I do think access to Legal help at affordable rates should be available, we have currently engaged a solicitor to oversee probate & the sale of my wife's aunt's estate, my father in law at 88 & the only surviving executor understandably didn't want to take it on. The solicitor's rate is £200 per hour, yes I do know you are not just paying for the solicitor, there are the clerks & the offices etc. But £200 per hour, or part thereof, to me is obscene & she is at the tail end of the meerkat.
 

tom73

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How or why is that even allowed

It's not but hard to stop so many ways mobiles get in. The problem is "micro mobiles" (about size of car key fob) So easy to hide and go unseen) Drones are a problem flying stuff in over the fence. It's not unknown for bent officers to smuggle them in. Sniffer dogs are effective at finding but can't find them all. Like so many things they simply is not enough prison officers.
 
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It's not but hard to stop so many ways mobiles get in. The problem is "micro mobiles" (about size of car key fob) So easy to hide and go unseen) Drones are a problem flying stuff in over the fence. It's not unknown for bent officers to smuggle them in. Sniffer dogs are effective at finding but can't find them all. Like so many things they simply is not enough prison officers.
But surely they don't need additional (wo)manpower, they simply add something to the prison that make it a deadspot for all mobile network, it can't be that hard, some form of jammer
 

BoldonLad

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But surely they don't need additional (wo)manpower, they simply add something to the prison that make it a deadspot for all mobile network, it can't be that hard, some form of jammer

I agree, but, then, the prison officers would not be able play on (sorry, use) their mobile phones. ;)
 
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I agree, but, then, the prison officers would not be able play on (sorry, use) their mobile phones. ;)
Why would they need to use a mobile phone? they have radios & if it was a requirement for phones HMP would have to provide them on a new channel.
 

tom73

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But surely they don't need additional (wo)manpower, they simply add something to the prison that make it a deadspot for all mobile network, it can't be that hard, some form of jammer

Tell the home office that , prisons do rely on a lot of comms so it's need to be well thought out.
Any mobile in prison is an offence no-one is allowed one not even in your staff locker. Not even visiting police officers oddly only exception is abmo crews. In the mean time prisons need more staff to deal with this and 1000 over issues.
 

tom73

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Why would they need to use a mobile phone? they have radios & if it was a requirement for phones HMP would have to provide them on a new channel.

Which is kind of what happens. Prisons have a set of approved mobiles they are held securely and given to officers when on prisoner escort. To be used to contact the prison from the outside. No phones are ever used inside prison approved or otherwise by staff or others.
 
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