goody
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How many year record olders have there been and how many of those records were legitimized by the UCMA. I think he's more interested in riding his bike than dealing with bureaucrasy.
205 miles in a day (Tommy Godwin Challenge) - the Progress thread
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Dogtrousers
Kilometre nibbler
Speaking of trackers, Steve's was offline yesterday.
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Cracking a solo.
Tommy Godwin's record has many question marks over it, however, as his record could not be disproved it was universally accepted as the bench mark. That of course is immaterial now as Kurt has surpassed it and he has done so using the technology which is available today and which he agreed to use when he approached the UMCA, his mileage should be accepted as indisputable, of course the argument will rage on about the spirit of the thing but that's merely a side show. The problem with Bruce is if he does go on to post a mileage higher than Kurt's there will be a huge problem with it not being ratified, if the mileage files are as easy to manipulate as I've read (and I'm not suggesting he's cheating) then it makes absolute sense to me to have an independent body govern the attempt, I can't see the point in potentially putting yourself in a position where your achievement will always be questioned and never accepted.
I also think that assuming the post above is the full transcript from the UMCA then they were more than fair and reasonable.
blazed
220lb+
A few here https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cycling_records interesting they are all within a calender year, so the umca have never officiated a single winning record. Bruce seems to be a fairly well known cyclist he will get just as much attention without them than he would with.
It might be the case if he had not approached UMCA in the first place. His responses to UMCA is less then convincing and goes to the heart of validation. He has stated that he will rely on Guiness to ratify and if he fails to get their acknowledgement, then he would have certainly painted himself into the corner and credibility would be an significant issue.
The attention in this case would be the wrong type.
Dogtrousers
Kilometre nibbler
Of course he's perfectly free to ride his bike and expect people to trust his Strava uploads, or even just his word if he has technical issues, and to keep his tracker hidden from all except specific people that he invites.
If, as he says, he's going to rely on Guinness then he may find himself out of the frying pan into the fire, with both a lot more regulation and, I believe, expense.
It seems like he hasn't really thought this through at all. It's not as if the UMCA requirements are particularly onerous or unreasonable. Kurt and Steve have managed them OK.
It also seems the UMCA were remiss in not being crystal clear that a private iphone app is not an acceptable tracker. Which may seem like be common sense but, as Bruce's case shows, you can't assume that. It would have been more sensible of them to list the requirement for openness, and also to list some example devices. Including, but not limited to, "Spot".
Edit. That said, he is still saying that Guinness will be certifying him [edited for accuracy]. See http://road.cc/content/news/175956-...ld-records-certifying-his-year-record-attempt
If, as he says, he's going to rely on Guinness then he may find himself out of the frying pan into the fire, with both a lot more regulation and, I believe, expense.
It seems like he hasn't really thought this through at all. It's not as if the UMCA requirements are particularly onerous or unreasonable. Kurt and Steve have managed them OK.
It also seems the UMCA were remiss in not being crystal clear that a private iphone app is not an acceptable tracker. Which may seem like be common sense but, as Bruce's case shows, you can't assume that. It would have been more sensible of them to list the requirement for openness, and also to list some example devices. Including, but not limited to, "Spot".
Edit. That said, he is still saying that Guinness will be certifying him [edited for accuracy]. See http://road.cc/content/news/175956-...ld-records-certifying-his-year-record-attempt
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Cracking a solo.
There are three rides on Strava for Steve this week, however one of them is only 36 miles, this is due to the midnight cut-off so although it shows for Wednesday it is actually part of Tuesdays ride, which means he rode 240 miles on Tuesdayish, which would be what he needs to do 'til the end of the month to achieve his January target, I think 
HERE we go.
HERE we go.
Dogtrousers
Kilometre nibbler
Steve's tracker was last active at 3am yesterday:
http://trackleaders.com/oneyeartimetrial15i.php?name=Steve_Abraham
jo from the other place
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I don't think there's anything in that road.cc news item that confirms Guinness says it is (or will be) ratifying the record attempt. Yes, Bruce says they will be, but that's quite a different matter.
It wouldn't surprise me that in a week's time, the only person continuing with an officially monitored record attempt will be Kajsa.
Dogtrousers
Kilometre nibbler
You're right. I mis-read the paragraph beginning "We have spoken to Guinness World Records..." My mistake.
I've corrected the original post.
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User482
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Hmmm... that doesn't tell us if he's riding or not. There's speculation in the other place that Steve has quit.
Beebo
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So even jo from the other place thinks the writing may be on the wall for Steve. How sad, but given the scale of what is needed, it isnt a difficult conclusion to reach.
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