Yep seems to work thanks , although I can't get the correct tension if I loosen the cable to much the trim function works but I'm unable to get enough tension to pull the mech toward the upper limit stop, so it looks like I'll need to add barrel adjuster :/Had a little play now, found that the cable was a tiny bit too tight. Didn't touch the front mech or lever just slackened the cable so that on its loosest point it was just short of floppy. That's a technical term for not tight for the uninitiated! Hope this helps you.