Are we being forced to go electric?

[CXRAndy]

It may have looked that way until he had to resign in 2018 to deal with fraud charges. He ended up stepping down as chairman for three years (Although he somehow remained the CEO) and was fined 20 million US $.

And at that point, Tesla hadn't made a profit.

The famous Musk tweets. He's a bit more careful to shoot from the hip with his tweets these days

useful website for seeing the growth over last 4-5 years

https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/TSLA/tesla/revenue

 

[CXRAndy]

And what the electricity supplied by these mega chargers is produced from.

In 2022, approximately 65% of the company's direct global electricity needs were met with renewable electricity, approximately 2,800 GWh

They're moving towards more renewable with wind and solar at production plants

https://www.pepsico.com/our-impact/esg-topics-a-z/renewable-energy

 

[Andy in Germany]

The famous Musk tweets.

Not to mention Mars by 2018; Solar roof tiles, Starlink; rockets replacing aircraft; 250mph driverless pods in tunnels, which became 40mph Tesla taxis; and of course Hyperloop, which was recently dismantled to make way for a railway line.

And every year he promises "automatic Robo taxi's next year." Is the promise of 100% return on the investment still valid, I wonder?

 

[Dadam]

Can't stand the man, in fact I think he's just a "gob on a stick" but he does have some clever folks working for him. He just claims all the credit.

 

[CXRAndy]

Can't stand the man, in fact I think he's just a "gob on a stick" but he does have some clever folks working for him. He just claims all the credit.

Well that's what leader/Bosses do

Wellington at Waterloo.

It's the men in the field who won the battle, but Wellington for his strategy is remembered

 

[Dadam]

Well that's what leader/Bosses do

Wellington at Waterloo.

It's the men in the field who won the battle, but Wellington for his strategy is remembered

Well I take the point but comparing Musk to Wellington is a stretch!

 

[fossyant]

Well that's what leader/Bosses do

Wellington at Waterloo.

It's the men in the field who won the battle, but Wellington for his strategy is remembered

I don't think Musk will be remembered as 'fondly'

 

[Dadam]

Well that's what leader/Bosses do

Bosses yes but not true leaders.
Musk has form for example for falsely claiming to be lead engineer for SpaceX.

 

[biggs682]

Well I take the point but comparing Musk to Wellington is a stretch!

I have to stretch to pull my wellies on or I did the last time I wore them

 

[CXRAndy]

Well I take the point but comparing Musk to Wellington is a stretch!

I wasn't comparing, just using an extreme example

 

[CXRAndy]

Not to mention Mars by 2018; Solar roof tiles, Starlink; rockets replacing aircraft; 250mph driverless pods in tunnels, which became 40mph Tesla taxis; and of course Hyperloop, which was recently dismantled to make way for a railway line.

And every year he promises "automatic Robo taxi's next year." Is the promise of 100% return on the investment still valid, I wonder?

• Don't fear failure — not failure, but low aim is the crime. ...
• The one who falls and gets up is stronger than the one who never tried. ...
• Do not fear mistakes. ...
• Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly. — ...
• One who fears failure limits his activities

 

[Andy in Germany]

Well I take the point but comparing Musk to Wellington is a stretch!

That would fit if Wellington had promised to win the Peninsula war in week, perhaps.

 

[Andy in Germany]

• Don't fear failure — not failure, but low aim is the crime. ...
• The one who falls and gets up is stronger than the one who never tried. ...
• Do not fear mistakes. ...
• Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly. — ...
• One who fears failure limits his activities

Thare's a big difference between trying and failing , and making massively hyped up claims about your prodiuct and claiming it can do things it can't.
One is trying and failing, the other is a con.

 

[classic33]

Thare's a big difference between trying and failing , and making massively hyped up claims about your prodiuct and claiming it can do things it can't.
One is trying and failing, the other is a con.

He's only doing what he's best at though.
Like selling an emerald mine that didn't exist.

 

[the snail]

I wasn't comparing, just using an extreme example

I think they're both like a lot of driven/successful people - not necessarily particularly likeable people. Wellington wasn't always that popular either.