You're quite right Randy
But please don't mention the wounded... it'll only encourage Bob to mention his knee !
Ha!Ha!
Actually I see someone else on the bkool forum has tried to take over as the holder of the wounded knee

Mine, as I am sure you all know

, is really more about my ITB issues. Feck, is my sports masseur enjoying working that over. I tell you it is actually worse than using a roller as he takes his knuckle and applies it to the length of the band, starting just inside the hip and working his way slowly to the knee once, then again...and again. I am sure i cried out-or I would have if i could breathe but such is the intensity of the pain i think i held my breath throughout the whole process.
On a separate note i rode the Rapha 3 sisters ride on zwift today and my bloody legs are now tight and sore. That aside its a really good ride ( though precious little time to warm up) and worth a CC chaingang at some point. I did it in 1h 48 so that gives you all an idea of how long it would likely take.