Zwift Chat

[JuhaL]

After yesterdays Stage5 Garmin told me that i should rest 65-hours, now it's 43 hours left, honestly S5 didn't felt that bad. Anyway i do my Trainerroad workouts this weekend, 1 today and 1 tomorrow. Yesterdays S5 ride i manage to maintain even power output both KOM:s, actually my output was bit better last KOM.

 

[bobinski]

Sugar is supposed to be at its most dangerous where you can’t see it- processed foods, breads etc, takeaways. If you only consume sugar where you know it’s present then you can control intake for energy.
As for invoking Lance 🤔 Milzy, I thought you were trolling 😁
Well done on the weight loss

 

[LBHIFI]

How do you work out your v02 max Lars?

I always use my Garmi head unit along with Zwift, in case some Thing should go wrong with the upload. The Garmin Connect app keeps track of FTP and vo2max developement.

 

[Milzy]

Sugar is supposed to be at its most dangerous where you can’t see it- processed foods, breads etc, takeaways. If you only consume sugar where you know it’s present then you can control intake for energy.
As for invoking Lance 🤔 Milzy, I thought you were trolling 😁
Well done on the weight loss

It was all from the Time Crunched cyclist book I read the other night. It's obviously very pro American but still a good read. I don't want to lose weight but doing these tours full on with a manual job is just melting me away.

 

[Alongo]

I find doing the majority of my workouts in Z2 leads to me having 95% peak fitness.

It only takes a few short events to peak up. Im not going for anything major in the way of events, so being around 95% is Okey dokey for me

I think quite a few of us are “time crunched” and can’t always find the time to get the Z2 base miles in, but at this time of year I think it is an investment for later in the year. I really enjoy the racing but feel that I often dig too deep , especially some of the races on Zwift lasting 70-80 mins , which can then affect consistency.
For the next month or so I am going to try to limit my intensity, ( I have been nursing a dodgy knee recently and feel pushing harder aggravates it) ,in the hope that it will help me develop a fitness that will have potential to grow later in the year .

 

[Milzy]

Bought these 2 for £4, the Crunched one is all about sacking off zone 2 long rides in place of pretty much what I do already, but you have to take from it what you want and keep open minded.

 

[CXRAndy]

I think quite a few of us are “time crunched” and can’t always find the time to get the Z2 base miles in, but at this time of year I think it is an investment for later in the year. I really enjoy the racing but feel that I often dig too deep , especially some of the races on Zwift lasting 70-80 mins , which can then affect consistency.
For the next month or so I am going to try to limit my intensity, ( I have been nursing a dodgy knee recently and feel pushing harder aggravates it) ,in the hope that it will help me develop a fitness that will have potential to grow later in the year .

Im finishing the TdZ then dropping out of racing till April. Im away for 2 week in Tenerife mid March. All my riding for 2 months will be Z2 and tiny Z5 intervals

 

[Del C]

Signed up for the 14:00 stage 6 today. @Brusgaard is signed up too, but I'm not expecting to see him after the pens.

I think my plan today is to go out hard, try to get into a fast group to drag me to the climbs. Suffer over the climbs and hope I can latch on to a group to drag me around the second lap 👍 I'm hoping I can hold on to 300 watts for the first minute, then 210 watts or so should let me stick to a group until the climbs. For the climbs I'm hoping to hold 230-250 watts then back down to 210 for the second lap.

That's the plan .... Should be a sub 55 min time

Edit: just saw that @Del C registered a 51:36 for this stage, so that's a target to aim for

Yep. 51.36 for me @peterob

I pretty much rode it exactly as you're planning to. It might be worth avoiding dying on your arse on the last climb, where I lost a few places, but that's just my point of view!

Strange ride for me and don't quite know what to make of it. Didn't go full bore at the start, but certainly went out a bit harder than I have been. Intended to latch on to a fast group and managed that ok. But Richmond is a fast course and fairly flat until you get the first big downhill followed by the three sharp climbs. So, the race seemed pretty full on all the way to the base of the first climb.

I was ok on the climbs, but didn't feel quite as strong as the Bologna climb. When I look at my power on Zwiftpower. my 5 and 20 minute stats are around normal, but the 1 min and 15 sec stats are quite a bit down. So, maybe that says my sustained power on the flats was ok, but I had less to give on the climbs?

It felt hard and maybe that's as well as I can go right now, but I had a nagging feeling that I could have held it better on the climbs and gone a bit quicker. I'll get a better feeling for that I suppose as others start to register times for the stage.

 

[Milzy]

Im finishing the TdZ then dropping out of racing till April. Im away for 2 week in Tenerife mid March. All my riding for 2 months will be Z2 and tiny Z5 intervals

I should do the same. Dartmoor classic end of June. No point getting fatigued or peaking too soon. Need to get outside but it's always freezing & windy.

 

[Del C]

Yep. 51.36 for me @peterob

I pretty much rode it exactly as you're planning to. It might be worth avoiding dying on your arse on the last climb, where I lost a few places, but that's just my point of view!

Strange ride for me and don't quite know what to make of it. Didn't go full bore at the start, but certainly went out a bit harder than I have been. Intended to latch on to a fast group and managed that ok. But Richmond is a fast course and fairly flat until you get the first big downhill followed by the three sharp climbs. So, the race seemed pretty full on all the way to the base of the first climb.

I was ok on the climbs, but didn't feel quite as strong as the Bologna climb. When I look at my power on Zwiftpower. my 5 and 20 minute stats are around normal, but the 1 min and 15 sec stats are quite a bit down. So, maybe that says my sustained power on the flats was ok, but I had less to give on the climbs?

It felt hard and maybe that's as well as I can go right now, but I had a nagging feeling that I could have held it better on the climbs and gone a bit quicker. I'll get a better feeling for that I suppose as others start to register times for the stage.

Just checking one Strava and my second lap was nearly 2 minutes slower and average power 25 watts down (244 v 219) so looks like I didn't get my pacing right.

 

[JuhaL]

Now that i have base phase plan in progress i hope that these TdZ stages doesn't do disadvantage for that Trainerroad plan. What is my point is that there suppose to be a rest days as well between those workout instead of TdZ stages or hard group ride events. This week is been a bit of unusual in that point of view. This week is gonna be toughest week for awhile if i measured at relative effort.

 

[Del C]

I should do the same. Dartmoor classic end of June. No point getting fatigued or peaking too soon. Need to get outside but it's always freezing & windy.

I should do the same. Dartmoor classic end of June. No point getting fatigued or peaking too soon. Need to get outside but it's always freezing & windy.

I used to like the Dartmoor Classic.

I think I rode it 4 times.

Well when I say I liked it, I got soaked and blown to pieces twice and crashed on a cattle grid once and ended up in Devon and Exeter hospital with 11 stitches in my chin. The 4th ride was uneventful!

I remember diving in to the pub on the high moor between Moretonhampstead and Postbridge to shelter and being blown sideways across the road when I left.

Enjoy!

 

[Alongo]

Just an idea , would any one be interested in a “Throttle down” month of racing, maybe stick to Threshold heart zone and Z4 in power zones, anyone goes above would get double the time in zones added to race time. Don’t see it being a problem to work out as everyone’s on Strava. It appeals to me because I think it is a little early in the year to be full on or would like to be ration higher intensity stuff to more structured intervals .

 

[Norry1]

1 week of my training plan down, 5 to go. This week was a "grinding" week...hours and hours of excruciating painfull low cadence workouts
These are the workouts that tend to give you the highest Vo2 max measurement, and I got my highest ever score (57) in the very first session.
I'm really looking forward to something that doesn't involve low cadence, but next weeks plan includes 2 of them, one of them lasting more than 3 hours
Thankfully, from there on it looks like we're moving on to threshold, sweetspot and sprints and only a few hour long low cadence workouts.

This year I started my plan from a higher level than before, with a lot more km's in the bag. Last time a started from a 275 watt FTP and raised that to 285 watt at the end of the plan. Increased that to 292 watts at the end of the season.
Starting point is now 285 watt and the hope is I'll be gaining as much as last time, but it could very well be that my engine is just not able to go further than 292 watt.... time will tell.

Well impressed with your plan and your commitment to date. Will be very interesting to see how the results go.

I'm also doing a fair bit of low cadence work - I think I find it a bit easier than over/under type threshold stuff, but it is hard innit.

 

[Whorty]

It felt hard and maybe that's as well as I can go right now, but I had a nagging feeling that I could have held it better on the climbs and gone a bit quicker. I'll get a better feeling for that I suppose as others start to register times for the stage.

Given your time and power, I'm hoping to come in around anything from 51:30 to 53:00 depending on the group I get in to. If I can get into a decent group on lap 1, to drag me to the climb, and then get into a decent group for lap 2, then I may be competitive. i think the worst that can happen is I end up in no mans land as the fast riders, and climbers, leave me on the climb of the hills and I have to wait for chasing groups.

Wish me luck