When does a ride become hilly.

[Nigelnaturist]

I know there are formulas to work things out, but I wondered if anyone has a simple method, other than it hurts.

 

[raindog]

if it goes up it's a hill

 

[Noodle Legs]

I would say it's when the ride consists of several ascents/descents of varying gradients as opposed to a flat/undulating route with the "odd one" here and there......don't know if theres any mathematical formula that determines it though

 

[Chris H]

Their are a few threads about "hills or gradients" I would guess one persons "hilly" is someone else's "mountain"

 

[Rob3rt]

I would class a ride with about ~750-1000ft elevation gain per 10 mile as hilly.

eg. 3000ft in 30 mile, or say 2700ft in 30 mile, I would class as hilly, as is typical for Cheshire or the Peak District.

 

[Hacienda71]

I would consider a hilly ride to be pretty much what Rob said. On the Cheshire plain you can ride for 60 to 80 miles and climb less than 1000 feet while up in the Pennines you will normally climb that every 10 miles.

 

[taximan]

I would consider hilly whatever direction I travel from my home

 

[Nearly there]

I would consider hilly whatever direction I travel from my home

Me too no escapin em

 

[Nigelnaturist]

I would consider a hilly ride to be pretty much what Rob said. On the Cheshire plain you can ride for 60 to 80 miles and climb less than 1000 feet while up in the Pennines you will normally climb that every 10 miles.

Pretty much like here, though need to go the other side of Wakefield or down towards Barnsley or north of Leeds to start getting that sort of climb.

Their are a few threads about "hills or gradients" I would guess one persons "hilly" is someone else's "mountain"

I understand that, and like as you cycle more what was once hilly to you doesn't seem so hilly after a while.

I would consider a hilly ride to be pretty much what Rob said. On the Cheshire plain you can ride for 60 to 80 miles and climb less than 1000 feet while up in the Pennines you will normally climb that every 10 miles.

Most of mine are 300-400ft per 10m, what I do is use a routing system that gives elevation gained divide that by the mileage I have done and for a feet climbed per mile divide that by ft to get a % grade for the ride. going off what you say it needs to be a gradient of about 1.9% my last 4wks the avg's are 0.47% 0.51% 0.59% and 0.6% I have done greater but mileages were less, last wk I climbed 31.33ft per mile my rides were on avg 21.45m long, this wk avg 32.79m a ride and 31.75 ft per mile my avg elevation .gain (subject to what software is being used) per ride as gone from 672ft to 1041 ft, but because I have ridden further it makes it look as though its only the same.

 

[Nigelnaturist]

I would say it's when the ride consists of several ascents/descents of varying gradients as opposed to a flat/undulating route with the "odd one" here and there......don't know if theres any mathematical formula that determines it though

There is a couple, Climb by Bike as used on gpsies web site formula

"CLIMBBYBIKE-INDEX
(H*100/D)*2 + H²/D + D/1000 + (T-1000)/100
Whereby: H = difference in height; D = distance in meters; T = top of mountain in meters
The last part of the formula does only apply to mountains above 1000 meters."

I was just wondering at what point its considered hilly as opposed to flattish.

 

[Crackle]

I would class a ride with about ~750-1000ft elevation gain per 10 mile as hilly.

eg. 3000ft in 30 mile, or say 2700ft in 30 mile, I would class as hilly, as is typical for Cheshire or the Peak District.

That's a neat definition and sounds about right, certainly chimes with rides I've recorded.

 

[GrasB]

My terrain classification over the entire ride (assuming a reasonable length of ride, say 10 miles or more):
0-5m/km = flat
5-10m/km = rolling
10-15m/km = slightly hilly
15-20m/km = hilly (this is close approximation to Rob3rt's 750~1000ft/10 miles, which works out to be 14.5~19m/km)
20-25m/km = very hilly
>25m/km = insane

 

[Nigelnaturist]

My terrain classification over the entire ride (assuming a reasonable length of ride, say 10 miles or more):
0-5m/km = flat
5-10m/km = rolling
10-15m/km = slightly hilly
15-20m/km = hilly (this is close approximation to Rob3rt's 750~1000ft/10 miles, which works out to be 14.5~19m/km)
20-25m/km = very hilly
>25m/km = insane

This is what I was looking for really an indication of whats what. So on a 30m run I would need to do about 2,500ft. Problem is there isnt much within 15m apart from to the S.W., I guess I will have to explore a bit, unless anyone knows the Pontefract area and could give me some ideas,

 

[Deleted member 1258]

I know there are formulas to work things out, but I wondered if anyone has a simple method, other than it hurts.

When I'm spending as much time climbing and descending as I am riding on the flat. Or I'm planning a route and the elevation chart on the summery page looks similar to this one

http://bikeroutetoaster.com/Course.aspx?course=403918

Just click on the Summery tab.

 

[Nigelnaturist]

When I'm spending as much time climbing and descending as I am riding on the flat. Or I'm planning a route and the elevation chart on the summery page looks similar to this one

http://bikeroutetoaster.com/Course.aspx?course=403918

Just click on the Summery tab.

Ok thats a little steep for me just yet.