we tackled a big hill

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..yeah! For anyone who knows the area, yesterday my husband and I tackled Camp Bank Hill. Someone said to me on here, when you do it, it doesn't matter if you have to stop or walk some of the way, just have a go...... So I did. We are both really new to cycling & my husband got all the way up without stopping... I could see his legs peddling away in the distance. I had no goal as such, I just wanted to see how far I could do & would know for next time that I would aim to improve. I actually cycled all the way up with 4 short stops. But I did do it and didn't have to get off and walk at all. Wow what a feeling. We stopped for a few mins at the top for a drink and I wanted to shout to all the passing motorists..."Oy we've just cycled up that" We then had a lovely downhill to whizz along which was also a great feeling. Hopped onto the canal & home. A lovely 6 mile loop.
 

Madmidwife

Active Member
Location
Daventry
Well done!!!
It is such a sense of achievement isn't it? It makes you feel good for a long time.

When I go the other way down a hill I have climbed- I love looking back with a sense of pride- oh- and relief that I won't be climbing it today!!!;)
 

ianrauk

Tattooed Beat Messiah
Location
Rides Ti2
Very well done both of you. Keep at it and you will get up there without stopping also. Just remember to use low gears and spin up.. wind yourself up the hill if you will...

Smudgley said:
..yeah! For anyone who knows the area, yesterday my husband and I tackled Camp Bank Hill. Someone said to me on here, when you do it, it doesn't matter if you have to stop or walk some of the way, just have a go...... So I did. We are both really new to cycling & my husband got all the way up without stopping... I could see his legs peddling away in the distance. I had no goal as such, I just wanted to see how far I could do & would know for next time that I would aim to improve. I actually cycled all the way up with 4 short stops. But I did do it and didn't have to get off and walk at all. Wow what a feeling. We stopped for a few mins at the top for a drink and I wanted to shout to all the passing motorists..."Oy we've just cycled up that" We then had a lovely downhill to whizz along which was also a great feeling. Hopped onto the canal & home. A lovely 6 mile loop.
 
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Smudgley

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ianrauk said:
Very well done both of you. Keep at it and you will get up there without stopping also. Just remember to use low gears and spin up.. wind yourself up the hill if you will...

gears - I simply don't get :blush: I just play pot luck with the gears, but I really don't know when I should be changing gear, I seem to just change when I *think* I should rather than when I need to or I will change when my legs hurt..... I need a lesson on gears. :blush:
 
Well done, nothing quite like conquering a big hill for the first time, it took me four tries to get up my local one in one go, but when I did (apart from being knackered) it felt like I could try a bigger one with less fear. :blush:

Next time you'll make it up without stopping at all I bet :blush:
 

rh100

Well-Known Member
Smudgley said:
gears - I simply don't get :blush: I just play pot luck with the gears, but I really don't know when I should be changing gear, I seem to just change when I *think* I should rather than when I need to or I will change when my legs hurt..... I need a lesson on gears. :laugh:

Took me a while to get used to, someone will be along to explain better but here goes:

Easiest: Chain on front small cog (seen referred to on here as the granny gear) and rear big cog - both to the left
Hardest: Chain on biggest front cog and smallest rear cog - both to the right.

Changing the rear gear up and down gives you the easiest increments in gear change - so if one is a bit difficult, change down on the rear, if legs are spinning out - change up.

I went everywhere for ages with the front on the small cog, just changing the rears, now my legs have built up I have it on the middle, just changing rears again. I don't change the front very often as my gears are a bit iffy and the chain comes off on the changeover.

However - beware of the chain being crossed over too much - ie left front and right rear or vice versa.

A bit simplistic but works for me :wacko:
 

Garz

Squat Member
Location
Down
It's the cliiiiiiimb! :blush:

Theres a couple of fanatics on here who deserve a certificate for the gearing knowlege, that may pop in to give you a masterclass.

What type of bike do you ride is it MTB or road? On these rings at the front count the teeth or if its clean enough you can usually see the number. Once you know the sizes you can work out chain length or effective wheel diameter.
 

jimboalee

New Member
Location
Solihull
I know that hill.

From the canal crossing up to the trig' point.

I went on an AUK 200 Rando back in '95 or '96 from Wall Heath rugby club.
I think it was the Stourbridge club who organised it. The route went across tha canal bridge and up to the trig' point.

"It was a nice warmer."

The 200 went to Percy Thrower's garden centre, Ellesmere, Wem, Newport, RAF Cosford and back to Wall Heath.

It pissed down at lunch time. That's why I remember it.

That's when I was riding a Peugeot Hi-ten 'Carbolite' with steel rims, steel handlebars with safety handles.

PS, the brake blocks were 'natural rubber' and worked OK in the rain.
 

jimboalee

New Member
Location
Solihull
jimboalee said:
I know that hill.

From the canal crossing up to the trig' point.

I went on an AUK 200 Rando back in '95 or '96 from Wall Heath rugby club.
I think it was the Stourbridge club who organised it. The route went across tha canal bridge and up to the trig' point.

"It was a nice warmer."

The 200 went to Percy Thrower's garden centre, Ellesmere, Wem, Newport, RAF Cosford and back to Wall Heath.

It pissed down at lunch time. That's why I remember it.

That's when I was riding a Peugeot Hi-ten 'Carbolite' with steel rims, steel handlebars with safety handles.

PS, the brake blocks were 'natural rubber' and worked OK in the rain.

I'm talking bollocks here.

The Wall Heath rando went to Much Wenlock, Craven Arms, Knighton, Presteigne, Tenbury Wells, across the footbridge at Upper Arley and then back to Wall Heath.

I might not be talking complete bollocks. There might have been two randos from Wall Heath in the nineties :laugh:
 

Banjo

Fuelled with Jelly Babies
Location
South Wales
Well done on getting to the top. Re gears I find it best to get into the smallest front chainring early then drop into the lowest gear and keep spinning the pedals while trying to relax your legs as much as possible.

More you ride the faster/easier it will get.Hills I couldnt ride at first I found within a few months of regular riding I could get to the top.:laugh:
 
Nice one smudgely, you'll easily be ready for that challenge next year at this rate.

Re gears, rh100 has done a good description. It's generally easiest to remember that "low numbers are easier to pedal; high numbers make you go faster" - at least that's how I explained it to Little-LC.

So the left hand shifter will move the front gears: you might have 2 or 3 of these. Number 1 will be the smallest (leftmost) ring at the front, then 2 then (maybe) 3.

The right hand shifter moves the back gears: you'll have somewhere between 5 and 10. Number 1 is physically the biggest ring (leftmost) at the back, then numbered left to right to the smallest.

As rh100 said, the back gives you smaller "steps" between gears whereas the front is big steps. The idea is to keep your legs moving at a speed where they feel comfortable: somewhere between 80 and 100 turns of the pedals each minute is generally reckoned to be a good figure to work with. I find around 95 is most natural feeling for me. How fast your legs are spinning round is what's called "cadence" and it's measured in revolutions per minute.

So, my bike is a mountain bike and has 24 gears: 3 at the front x 8 at the back. This is how I use them to go to work ..

Most of my riding to work is done using 2 (middle ring) at the front and somewhere between 3 and 6 (sometimes 7) at the back. I tend to start off in 2 at the front, 3 or 4 at the back. After half a mile or so, I come to a steepish hill and I know I'm not gonna get up it in the middle ring so just as I start the "bigger" climb I change down to 1 at the front: I'll already be on 3 or 4 at the back, depending on how the lower part of the climb has gone.

The combination 1-3 will normally see me up the hill. Sometimes I go for 1-4, sometimes 1-2, just depends on how my legs feel. Spinning a lower gear round fast is easier on your legs, but makes you breathe a lot harder.

At the top I go into some woods so I generally stay on the granny ring and use 3 or 4 at the back. Sometimes I go up to the middle ring and run 2-3 .. it just depends.

Once I come out of the woods, I start to go downhill and join a road so I go onto the middle ring (if not already there) and quickly work up through 3, 4 and 5. Then I tend to use 2-5 or 2-6 to cross the first housing estate I pass, all on road.

As I leave that estate, I'm on a slight downhill for a couple of miles: it's a bridleway that's been kind of co-opted as a ped / cycle path for a bypass so it's well surfaced and wide, with hardly ever anyone on it (they're all in cars in the queue on the bypass ;)) so with the downhill and (usually) a tailwind I go to the big ring at the front and use 6,7 or 8 at the back to move a bit faster.

That's what works for me: I tend to use the front to be in the correct "range" of gears for what I know is coming up, then "fine tune" at the back.

As rh100 said, you should avoid "cross chaining": if you're on 1 at the front, don't use your highest numbered few gears at the back, equally don't use the lowest numbered ones at the back with 3 at the front. If you do, the chain runs at quite an angle between front and back and it don't like it!! There will be another gear using a different combination front-back that is about the same.

I generally use 1 to 4 at the back with 1 at the front, 3 to 6 (sometimes 7) at the back with 2, then 6 to 8 (sometimes 5) with 3.

By the time you don't use the "crossed" gears, and allow for combinations that are close to each other you find your number of useable gears is much lower than the number of gears you have. I typically use 10-12 at most of my 24, and there's 8 combinations that I use 80% of the time.

A long post, but I hope it helps.
 

BearPear

Veteran
Location
God's Own County
woop woop! Well done to you both!

I am learning gears (I love my Granny!) and think I have the theory, just getting the practice in. I have a challenging hill at the start of my route - I manage the toughest part in "double granny", my ambition is to do it in a slightly higher cog, one of these days!
 
BearPear said:
woop woop! Well done to you both!

I am learning gears (I love my Granny!) and think I have the theory, just getting the practice in. I have a challenging hill at the start of my route - I manage the toughest part in "double granny", my ambition is to do it in a slightly higher cog, one of these days!
Yep, in all that waffle above I "forgot" to admit that the first time I tried to go up the hill near home I was in "double granny" more or less from the start, and bailed out halfway up. ;)

It took me a few goes to get all the way up it, and a few weeks to get to the point where I could use a higher gear.
 
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