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ColinJ

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Hebden Bridge didn't get broadband until late 2003. We can't get cable TV. We can't get Channel 5 and we don't get Freeview from our local TV mast, we won't until the digital switchover, and we will be one of the last areas in the country to get that. Because of the steep surrounding hills, there are some homes that can't even get Sky.

But, but, BUT... we will be one of the first areas in the country to trial BT's new superfast broadband. Yesssss! :wacko:
 

marinyork

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Seems a bit silly doing fttc to a lot of areas round there that already have cable. Still I suppose those areas that don't get fibre and those that already do have competition ;).
 

Melvil

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Erm...what exactly is brilliant about superfast broadband except superfast P2P sharing? Have I missed something in this revolution?
 

marinyork

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Melvil said:
Erm...what exactly is brilliant about superfast broadband except superfast P2P sharing? Have I missed something in this revolution?

Well there's IPTV or similar products for a start. It would be a really, really big deal.
 
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ColinJ

ColinJ

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Melvil said:
Erm...what exactly is brilliant about superfast broadband except superfast P2P sharing? Have I missed something in this revolution?
I think being able to download a full-length HDTV movie from an online video store quicker than you could drive to a physical store would be pretty good for a start. I currently use a mail order DVD rental company and it takes 4-5 days for them to send me another DVD after I post the previous one back to them. A few minutes would be a pretty big improvement on that!

How about full-screen high quality video conferencing?

High-speed remote backups of your computer?

Bandwidth to spare for a large family, library, school?

Fast upload speeds. I currently get about 5 Mbits download speed, but a maximum of 0.5 Mbits upload.

Once processing power, bandwidth and storage are cheap enough the need for compression decreases so everyday website audio and video quality can be improved.

Massively powerful distributed computing?

And so on and so forth.

When I was a teenager, I used to dabble in computer programming at school. That involved using a hand card punch to enter my Algol program. A few days later, a group of us would be driven over to Warwick university to hand over our card stacks and pick up the results of running the previous week's programs (usually 'syntax error...'!). It took days or weeks to get anything done.

I remember a conversation with a schoolmate when I told him that it was likely that a computer would be built in our lifetimes which would fit in a large suitcase rather than a large building. He didn't believe me, but it happened within 10 years, it was the size of a typewriter rather than a suitcase, and it cost less than £5,000 rather than the £50,000 I'd estimated that it would cost.

The same schoolmate asked me why anybody would want such a computer and I listed the things that I'd wanted at the time. Recording and manipulating sound and pictures were top of the list.

I wrote to the BBC Radiophonic Workshop at the time asking for information on their equipment. They sent me loads of interesting material. I stared in awe at their 'Synthi 100'. You could get something more powerful to run on a cheap laptop now.

Every time powerful new technologies are invented, exciting new applications are thought up to use them. I admit that I didn't anticipate the Internet - that really caught me out, but it only took me a few minutes to cotton on to the possibilities. I spend several hours a day on it now. Ultra-fast broadband will open up all sorts of new possibilities. Bring it on!
 

marinyork

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Sadly HD virtual store downloads in this country are very primitive. That particular one is a fair way off :wahhey:.
 

marinyork

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You definitely on the Calder Valley exchange? Sounds very doubtful to me just looking at the official list, unless you do live in Mytholmroyd. Hebden Bridge is defininitely not on the list of exchanges.
 
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ColinJ

ColinJ

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marinyork said:
You definitely on the Calder Valley exchange? Sounds very doubtful to me just looking at the official list, unless you do live in Mytholmroyd. Hebden Bridge is defininitely not on the list of exchanges.
Damn it - you're right! There was me thinking that the exchange in Hebden Bridge served the Calder Valley.

Hebden Bridge didn't get broadband until late 2003. We can't get cable TV. We can't get Channel 5 and we don't get Freeview from our local TV mast, we won't until the digital switchover, and we will be one of the last areas in the country to get that. Because of the steep surrounding hills, there are some homes that can't even get Sky.

And, and, AND... we will probably be one of the last areas in the country to get BT's new superfast broadband too.

Nooooooo! :evil:

Oh well, I probably wouldn't have been able to afford it anyway!
 
Hebden Bridge has other advantages though ColinJ, don't despair. Some friends of mine lived there for a number of years, nice shops, nice walks (steep though), tons of character and characters and good pubs. A man could live well there.
 
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ColinJ

ColinJ

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Crackle said:
Hebden Bridge has other advantages though ColinJ, don't despair. Some friends of mine lived there for a number of years, nice shops, nice walks (steep though), tons of character and characters and good pubs. A man could live well there.
I'll survive! My 5 Mbit connection is adequate but I'd like a faster connection for the reasons stated above. Dial-up used to drive me mad - I once spent £100 on internet phone charges in a month!

As for Hebden Bridge - yes, it's a good place to live. Fairly quiet, close to the countryside, enough shops that I never have to go out of town shopping, but quick rail links to Manchester, Leeds, Preston and so on.

Yes the walking, road cycling and mountain biking round here are great. I've written up a few of the walks I've done recently in my lard-buster blog.
 

Melvil

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ColinJ said:
I think being able to download a full-length HDTV movie from an online video store quicker than you could drive to a physical store would be pretty good for a start. I currently use a mail order DVD rental company and it takes 4-5 days for them to send me another DVD after I post the previous one back to them. A few minutes would be a pretty big improvement on that!

How about full-screen high quality video conferencing?

High-speed remote backups of your computer?

Bandwidth to spare for a large family, library, school?

Fast upload speeds. I currently get about 5 Mbits download speed, but a maximum of 0.5 Mbits upload.

Once processing power, bandwidth and storage are cheap enough the need for compression decreases so everyday website audio and video quality can be improved.

Massively powerful distributed computing?

And so on and so forth.

When I was a teenager, I used to dabble in computer programming at school. That involved using a hand card punch to enter my Algol program. A few days later, a group of us would be driven over to Warwick university to hand over our card stacks and pick up the results of running the previous week's programs (usually 'syntax error...'!). It took days or weeks to get anything done.

I remember a conversation with a schoolmate when I told him that it was likely that a computer would be built in our lifetimes which would fit in a large suitcase rather than a large building. He didn't believe me, but it happened within 10 years, it was the size of a typewriter rather than a suitcase, and it cost less than £5,000 rather than the £50,000 I'd estimated that it would cost.

The same schoolmate asked me why anybody would want such a computer and I listed the things that I'd wanted at the time. Recording and manipulating sound and pictures were top of the list.

I wrote to the BBC Radiophonic Workshop at the time asking for information on their equipment. They sent me loads of interesting material. I stared in awe at their 'Synthi 100'. You could get something more powerful to run on a cheap laptop now.

Every time powerful new technologies are invented, exciting new applications are thought up to use them. I admit that I didn't anticipate the Internet - that really caught me out, but it only took me a few minutes to cotton on to the possibilities. I spend several hours a day on it now. Ultra-fast broadband will open up all sorts of new possibilities. Bring it on!

Well, that's certainly given me something to think about, Colin. Cheers.
 
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