Tyres

[Dangermouse]

OK so I have Bontrager R1s on and they are not very good in the damp conditions........in fact they break away at very low speeds without any warning, so far I have managed to stay upright, but its only a matter of time.

So what are grippy in the damp and will do throughout the winter months, I have heard good things about Michelin and Shwalbe

 

[Biker Joe]

Continental 4 seasons would be on my list.

 

[MikeW-71]

Any Conti that uses the Black Chilli compound - very good damp/wet grip.

 

[mattobrien]

I had a pair of Conti Four seasons an very early on in the second winter I noticed that one of the tyres was cur quite badly, so a replacement was needed.

Instead of getting another Conti, I have opted for a pair of Michelin Pro 4 Endurance, they were £19.99 each, which was a lot cheaper than the Conti's are. They are also smooth, whereas the Conti's have tread cut in them. Part of me wondered if the tread would help harbour more sharp things trying to give punctures. No tread is necessary on a road bike tyre / no risk of aqua planning.

The bike runs well on the Michelin;s and there haven't been any 'moments' since switching. In all honesty, I probably can't tell the difference or am not prepared to test the grip int he conditions I am riding them in, as I know I would come off worse.

So my money (and less of it, as it turned out) is on the Pro 4 Endurance at £20 each.

 

[Cyclist33]

I had a pair of Conti Four seasons an very early on in the second winter I noticed that one of the tyres was cur quite badly, so a replacement was needed.

Instead of getting another Conti, I have opted for a pair of Michelin Pro 4 Endurance, they were £19.99 each, which was a lot cheaper than the Conti's are. They are also smooth, whereas the Conti's have tread cut in them. Part of me wondered if the tread would help harbour more sharp things trying to give punctures. No tread is necessary on a road bike tyre / no risk of aqua planning.

The bike runs well on the Michelin;s and there haven't been any 'moments' since switching. In all honesty, I probably can't tell the difference or am not prepared to test the grip int he conditions I am riding them in, as I know I would come off worse.

So my money (and less of it, as it turned out) is on the Pro 4 Endurance at £20 each.

Also just got a pair of these - chain reaction cycles. No problems so far and they look good too!

 

[jayonabike]

+1 on the 4 seasons.

 

[lpretro1]

Conti gp4000s recommended - running them on both our road bikes. Remember though in colder temperatures the rubber in tyres isn't as grippy anyway

 

[HLaB]

I had a pair of Conti Four seasons an very early on in the second winter I noticed that one of the tyres was cur quite badly, so a replacement was needed.

Instead of getting another Conti, I have opted for a pair of Michelin Pro 4 Endurance, they were £19.99 each, which was a lot cheaper than the Conti's are. They are also smooth, whereas the Conti's have tread cut in them. Part of me wondered if the tread would help harbour more sharp things trying to give punctures. No tread is necessary on a road bike tyre / no risk of aqua planning.

The bike runs well on the Michelin;s and there haven't been any 'moments' since switching. In all honesty, I probably can't tell the difference or am not prepared to test the grip int he conditions I am riding them in, as I know I would come off worse.

So my money (and less of it, as it turned out) is on the Pro 4 Endurance at £20 each.

I used to use 4seasons but when money was a bit tight I experimented with krylion carbons (superseded by Pro 4 Endurance) and Im glad I did, they perform similar grip/roll and much better in Endurance/p'ture resistance (4 seasons are fine till a point then p'ture often, Kyrlions/P4E last much longer to that point) plus as you point out they are cheaper.

 

[Andrew_P]

I had a pair of Conti Four seasons an very early on in the second winter I noticed that one of the tyres was cur quite badly, so a replacement was needed.

Instead of getting another Conti, I have opted for a pair of Michelin Pro 4 Endurance, they were £19.99 each, which was a lot cheaper than the Conti's are. They are also smooth, whereas the Conti's have tread cut in them. Part of me wondered if the tread would help harbour more sharp things trying to give punctures. No tread is necessary on a road bike tyre / no risk of aqua planning.

The bike runs well on the Michelin;s and there haven't been any 'moments' since switching. In all honesty, I probably can't tell the difference or am not prepared to test the grip int he conditions I am riding them in, as I know I would come off worse.

So my money (and less of it, as it turned out) is on the Pro 4 Endurance at £20 each.

Out of interest were the endurance tight to get on?

I bought Pro 4 Service course and the tyre blew out on a corner and I came off. The service course has sidewalls made of cheese and a cursory search of Google comes back with it wasn't only me in fact blowout looks identical to this same place same size was identical to http://www.cyclechat.net/threads/tyre-blow-out.112611/ @lozcs Put me off Michelins to be honest only 300 miles on them too.

Running bibs and braces armadillos for the winter, than back to conti's in the summer.

 

[mattobrien]

Out of interest were the endurance tight to get on?

I bought Pro 4 Service course and the tyre blew out on a corner and I came off. The service course has sidewalls made of cheese and a cursory search of Google comes back with it wasn't only me in fact blowout looks identical to this same place same size was identical to http://www.cyclechat.net/threads/tyre-blow-out.112611/ @lozcs Put me off Michelins to be honest only 300 miles on them too.

Running bibs and braces armadillos for the winter, than back to conti's in the summer.

I have got some Michelin pro 4 comps on the good bike so I have previous when it comes to fitting these.

They weren't on okay, if I recall correctly I got them on without levers. I tend to get one edge in, then the inner tube with a little air in it. Get the inner tube seated in the rim all the way round and then start feeding the second edge of the tyre. Possibly at the end I take the remaining air out of the tube to get the final bit on the rim. The Endurance tyres were relatively easy to get on compared to the comps...

Not had any pinch punctures using this method.