Stress- Learn how to say "No" to yourself.

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steveindenmark

Legendary Member
It takes a man to admit that he was wrong. In which case I must be a man, because I was wrong. You are probably wrong as well. Its time we all started being right.

In February I was diagnosed as having work related stress and underlying depression. I was shocked and everyone who knew me were even more shocked. I was not the type of person who was going to suffer from stress. I was bold and confident, always up for a laugh. Good at my job and always in command of what needed to be done and made sure the job was always done and we were always on track at work.

I used to hate watching other people at work standing around doing nothing, "lazy bastxxds" I used to think.

My working life started at the age of 7 in the potato fields of Yorkshire and that is where the seeds of stress were also sown. My brothers had to look after me and so they took me potato picking. They would pick their Section and I would follow on behind collecting the missed potatoes. With a vengence. Nothing was missed. It was OCD potato picking. The farmer loved us.

This type of behaviour carried on all through my working life. I was never forced to be perfect at work but it was something I strived to achieve. Doing your best or doing what you can was not an option for me. It had to be always right. If a job came in, it was me who took it on, because I could do it better than anyone else. Thats what I thought.

Without even realising it I was putting stress on myself from a very early age. Personally, I can only speak about stress in analogies. You start with an empty glass and as you experience stress a couple of drops go in the glass. No problem as it is a big glass. The years go on and now there is an inch of liquid in the glass, a lot more than a couple of drops. But its a big glass. More years go on and more liquid goes in the glass. Its a very slow process and you cannot see the changes in yourself. You think it is normal, but its not.

Then comes the day, as it did to me in February. A few drops are added to the glass but the glass is totally full and starts to overflow and you cant push the liquid back in, nomatter how you try. Over 50 years of liquid was added to my glass. This is when STRESS starts. Everything that went before was not stress, you mistook it for stress but that was pressure of life and work.

When the glass gets full the stress symptoms start. Lack of sleep, apetite, sex drive, confusion, fear of everything, lack of concentration, shaking, lack of interest in anything. The worst thing for me is that I became someone I didnt know and it took me 6 weeks to accept that it was happening to me. The only place I felt safe were in my house, my garden or in the car. I didnt leave my property for a month, I wouldnt have visitors, I hated it when Jannie went to work, she became my Security blanket.

I visited my doctor every month and we talked. The stress councillor was a great help. Both of them said getting back on my bike was very important. I had to get an interest back in something I loved. That was the beginning of the turn round. When you cycle you go into your head. You can look clearly at the picture and over the weeks you can see that the "lazy bastxxds" actually have the right idea.

I took up meditation and it made me laugh. I had become a hippy. But it helps. Twice a day, sitting totally quiet for 15 minutes. I close my eyes and think of a nonesense word like "Dom" and say it in my head over and over. Its almost like taking a nap.

I dont think I will return to being the person I was. I am quieter and more subdued. but I have learnt a lot. the company I work for has not collapsed, I wasnt that important after all. I was never pressured into working the way I did, it was my work ethic, I chose it. I chose the wrong one.

Hopefully, I will return to work part time next week, with a different attitude. I will not be waking up on Saturdays, seeing that its raining and deciding to go to work. I will be doing what I can. If I cant do it, then its a management problem, not mine. I love my work but I want my life to be more important.

There is no cure for stress. Pills and potions will supress it and I have avoided that. It is like ripping all the wires out of a car and replacing them without the manual. Its all trial and error. But the help is mostly within yourself. You need to sit quietly and work it out. You need to be able to stand in front of the World and admit you were wrong and thats hard. The hardest part is admitting and accepting to yourself, that you are not as smart as you always thought you were. That is humbling.

It has been a difficult few months but interesting in an odd way. I have discovered that I am a different person to who I thought I was. Unfortunately, that other person still hasnt won the lottery.

If anyone wants to ask about stress, either privately or publicly, please ask. I am not a professional and can only tell you how I feel and what I did. But I am happy to help.

I apologise for the longest ever post on CC.
 
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mjr

Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
I apologise for the longest ever post on CC.
Not even close. Thanks for sharing. It might help someone. How's the bike? ;)
 
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That's the longest post I have ever bothered to read on CC - but I did it in support of you. It is certainly very insightful and I think I may not be affected by this, fortunately for me. I do have issues though, many. I know what they are and I try and deal with them. I hope you can return to your former, better self.
 
Won't say GWS because its something to adjust to over a long time, but refreshingly honest post and hopefully it helps other people & you.
I'm in a similar boat, not through stress though, and trying to adjust is a "challenge" (using management BS) and has its ups and downs, but that's whats life is about :hugs:.
 

rugby bloke

Veteran
Location
Northamptonshire
Its very brave and honest to share your feelings. I hope you continue to recover and find the right balance in your life. I think one of the joys of cycling is the chance to be in your own head and have a good old meditation over things.
 

Kajjal

Guru
Location
Wheely World
Stress can be very debilitating for anyone over a prolonged period of time. I have a very stressful job but approach it with a do the best i reasonably can view. The person before me was working twice as many hours, had alot of time off and spent alot of their time angry. Stress gradually creeps up on you over time and that is why it gets very severe often before people notice. The only advice i would give is don't overload yourself and just let things go, which is often alot harder said than done.

Cycling on and off road is my release from everything :okay:
 

fossyant

Ride It Like You Stole It!
Location
South Manchester
Very sound advice. I've been told not to push it to get back to full time too quickly as it will tip me over having had seven months off with a fractured spine. The down side is money of course.
 

jonny jeez

Legendary Member
It takes a man to admit that he was wrong. In which case I must be a man, because I was wrong. You are probably wrong as well. Its time we all started being right.

In February I was diagnosed as having work related stress and underlying depression. I was shocked and everyone who knew me were even more shocked. I was not the type of person who was going to suffer from stress. I was bold and confident, always up for a laugh. Good at my job and always in command of what needed to be done and made sure the job was always done and we were always on track at work.

I used to hate watching other people at work standing around doing nothing, "lazy bastxxds" I used to think.

My working life started at the age of 7 in the potato fields of Yorkshire and that is where the seeds of stress were also sown. My brothers had to look after me and so they took me potato picking. They would pick their Section and I would follow on behind collecting the missed potatoes. With a vengence. Nothing was missed. It was OCD potato picking. The farmer loved us.

This type of behaviour carried on all through my working life. I was never forced to be perfect at work but it was something I strived to achieve. Doing your best or doing what you can was not an option for me. It had to be always right. If a job came in, it was me who took it on, because I could do it better than anyone else. Thats what I thought.

Without even realising it I was putting stress on myself from a very early age. Personally, I can only speak about stress in analogies. You start with an empty glass and as you experience stress a couple of drops go in the glass. No problem as it is a big glass. The years go on and now there is an inch of liquid in the glass, a lot more than a couple of drops. But its a big glass. More years go on and more liquid goes in the glass. Its a very slow process and you cannot see the changes in yourself. You think it is normal, but its not.

Then comes the day, as it did to me in February. A few drops are added to the glass but the glass is totally full and starts to overflow and you cant push the liquid back in, nomatter how you try. Over 50 years of liquid was added to my glass. This is when STRESS starts. Everything that went before was not stress, you mistook it for stress but that was pressure of life and work.

When the glass gets full the stress symptoms start. Lack of sleep, apetite, sex drive, confusion, fear of everything, lack of concentration, shaking, lack of interest in anything. The worst thing for me is that I became someone I didnt know and it took me 6 weeks to accept that it was happening to me. The only place I felt safe were in my house, my garden or in the car. I didnt leave my property for a month, I wouldnt have visitors, I hated it when Jannie went to work, she became my Security blanket.

I visited my doctor every month and we talked. The stress councillor was a great help. Both of them said getting back on my bike was very important. I had to get an interest back in something I loved. That was the beginning of the turn round. When you cycle you go into your head. You can look clearly at the picture and over the weeks you can see that the "lazy bastxxds" actually have the right idea.

I took up meditation and it made me laugh. I had become a hippy. But it helps. Twice a day, sitting totally quiet for 15 minutes. I close my eyes and think of a nonesense word like "Dom" and say it in my head over and over. Its almost like taking a nap.

I dont think I will return to being the person I was. I am quieter and more subdued. but I have learnt a lot. the company I work for has not collapsed, I wasnt that important after all. I was never pressured into working the way I did, it was my work ethic, I chose it. I chose the wrong one.

Hopefully, I will return to work part time next week, with a different attitude. I will not be waking up on Saturdays, seeing that its raining and deciding to go to work. I will be doing what I can. If I cant do it, then its a management problem, not mine. I love my work but I want my life to be more important.

There is no cure for stress. Pills and potions will supress it and I have avoided that. It is like ripping all the wires out of a car and replacing them without the manual. Its all trial and error. But the help is mostly within yourself. You need to sit quietly and work it out. You need to be able to stand in front of the World and admit you were wrong and thats hard. The hardest part is admitting and accepting to yourself, that you are not as smart as you always thought you were. That is humbling.

It has been a difficult few months but interesting in an odd way. I have discovered that I am a different person to who I thought I was. Unfortunately, that other person still hasnt won the lottery.

If anyone wants to ask about stress, either privately or publicly, please ask. I am not a professional and can only tell you how I feel and what I did. But I am happy to help.

I apologise for the longest ever post on CC.
Thank you for posting this.
 

byegad

Legendary Member
Location
NE England
Good on you Steve. Having got that particular T-shirt in my collection some 20 years ago I feel you are on the right track. Sometimes 'Good enough' is fine and you have taken on board that your own worst enemy is your perfectionist streak.
I drastically down sized my job (and my income) and have been a lot happier since taking that simple step.
 

Fab Foodie

hanging-on in quiet desperation ...
Location
Kirton, Devon.
Brave post.

Having just returned to work after 6 weeks signed-off through stress and exhaustion, I'm still wearing the T-shirt. I've been suffering and close to the edge for many many years and somehow just coped. However this is to the detriment of my family which this time round I pretty much lost but we're just about hanging-on.
It took at least 4 weeks of absolute nothing and several other lifestyle changes to start to turn things around and that includes medication and CBT. It's also taken a crash such as this to make work realise that the pressure and the way we operate is not sustainable in the longer-term (another colleague is starting to have similar symptoms). As Einstein said, if you keep doing the same things, don't be surprised if you keep getting the same outcomes.
In my case work must change. I will look to scale back my days and I'm lucky that I can afford to take a drop in income/living standard for more personal time and being a healthier, happier person and maybe one day a decent and loved Dad again. It's the start of a long road. Good luck with your own journey.
 

cosmicbike

Perhaps This One.....
Moderator
Location
Egham
Great post Steve, and brave too. I was where you are last year, and like you, never saw myself as one for stress or depression, it hit me hard as a result of my physical issues and future uncertainty. No pills will fix it, though they can assist, and I found my greatest support from my wife & kids, along with a very supportive boss. Been back full time for nearly a year now, and hopefully it's all in the past.
I hope your journey continues in a positive way.
 

Effyb4

Veteran
I suffered seriously from stress when I was teaching, almost entirely caused by the job. I had to take 6 months off work because I didn't want to get out of bed, leave the house, answer the phone or see anyone except my husband and children. I had some counselling, which helped a lot and I decided to leave teaching (in schools anyway).

A couple of months later I started a job in a nursery. I still found it stressful, although not as bad. After a year in the job I had a heart attack and bypass surgery. The heart attack was unexplained, not being caused by fattening of the arteries, but I put it down to the amount of stress I have experienced.

I did go back to work after 3 months, but with reduced hours and a much changed attitude. Stress is very bad for your health.
 
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