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stephenjubb

Über Member
Oh ow I wish for the old quill stem wouldn't have this problem.

With reference to attached picture I have a stem riser (silver) with an adjustable loox ergo stem (blue) on top in order for me to get the handlebars to a comfortable height. Combined they weigh 600g.

Does anyone know of a steering stem that would replace both of these items which would then end up been stronger and lighter?

cheer

steve jubb
 

MacB

Lover of things that come in 3's
sorry, I'm confused here, wouldn't having to raise the bars that high indicate the bike is the wrong size?
 
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stephenjubb

Über Member
I don't think so, when I stand with my feet on the flow the top bar touches my private parts, so with a smaller frame then handlebars would be even lower.

It comes from the fact I like to ride in a vertical position (but still like drops for the range of different positions) hence having to raise the handlebars
 

kyuss

Veteran
Location
Edinburgh
That can't possibly be safe and must make the steering, well, interesting. If that's what you have to do to get comfortable then you should really start looking at custom frames or at least a bike that's more suitable to an upright position.
 

MacB

Lover of things that come in 3's
stephenjubb said:
I don't think so, when I stand with my feet on the flow the top bar touches my private parts, so with a smaller frame then handlebars would be even lower.

It comes from the fact I like to ride in a vertical position (but still like drops for the range of different positions) hence having to raise the handlebars

The height, or crotch clearance, may be correct but here we seem to be looking at the top tube length and head tube length and angle, all about the reach. Without seeing full piccies a couple of thoughts:-

new forks with an uncut steerer tube, though the one in the pic looks pretty long anyway, could allow the bars to be higher

bringing the saddle further forward, if already at the most forward position then, if you have a set back seatpost, you could switch this for an inline one. This could make the difference of 3-4cm.

A lot of the stuff I've read on fitting indicates that the effective top tube length is the most important size, within reason. Newer geometries, with sloping top tubes, make this harder to measure, you have to go by an imaginary line.

I could be totally wrong, you may need this set up, but first impressions are that the top tube is too long for you on the bike.
 
stephenjubb said:
I don't think so, when I stand with my feet on the flow the top bar touches my private parts, so with a smaller frame then handlebars would be even lower.

It comes from the fact I like to ride in a vertical position (but still like drops for the range of different positions) hence having to raise the handlebars


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You need a long chat with 'Butterfly' MacBludgeon about hand position, variety and comfort stephen. Then, as kyuss indicates, a bike fitting session - that is an extraordinary position.
Get a tag-a-long for you private parts. :wacko:
 

ASC1951

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
stephenjubb said:
It comes from the fact I like to ride in a vertical position (but still like drops for the range of different positions) hence having to raise the handlebars
Unless you have to ride like that because of some back injury or disability - in which case, sorry - wouldn't you be much better just getting used to riding with a sloping back?

The rest of the world has the bottom of the drops an inch or so below the bottom of the top tube for good reason. It's safer, quicker, much more efficient and ultimately more comfortable. I appreciate that it's your back and your bike, so you can do whatever the hell you prefer, but why do you like to ride so vertical?
 

02GF74

Über Member
I doubt very much you could get a quill stem as high as that..... unless the steerer was uncut but then it would not be possible to fit the bearing?

As they say, unless you have an injury that menas you must ride like that, then you should get used to riding in the more conventional position - that definitely looks wrong.
 
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