The Surly's steerer tube was so long I would have been in danger of poking my eye out if I hadn't cut it at all!
I've currently got 35mm of spacers under the stem, and I've just ordered a new stem with more rise, so I can get the bars a bit higher again. I'm not sure why I need these bars so much higher/closer than the old ones - possibly the extra width at the hoods? - but I know it isn't going to be comfortable for long rides as it is.