Shimano External BB

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3outof5

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Chester, UK
My road bike had been making a noise when doing the downward stroke on the left pedal. Started a couple of weeks ago and gradually got worse. I can only describe it as a "dull cracking" sort of noise. I thought I could see excess play when rocking the crank arm so I decided to call into the LBS and ask advice.
The bloke advised "it probably just needs the BB taking out, cleaning/regreasing then putting back in, that usually cures it". Fair enough, but, as I thought I could do it myself for reasonable cost I went ahead and bought a replacement BB, a BB wrench and some grease.
The bike is Tiagra 4600 throughout but as they're so cheap (£16) I bought the Ultegra 6700 one instead. Last night I proceeded to take everything apart, but I could not believe how difficult it was to unscrew the existing BB. I tried the left hand shell first and more or less gouged my way through all the indents around the shell, it would not budge a millimetre. Admittedly it was a cheap wrench and I guess it was flexing slightly but nevertheless. So I decided to give up on that one and moved onto the right-hand one, which was also very tight, but, putting my full weight standing on the handle of the wrench, it started to undo.
Moved back to the other one and kept at it, but it was too tight and the indents were now completley goosed. Hmm. Time to bring out "the pacifier", a tool of last resort I've had in my box for years, from when I used to work on classic cars. It's got sharp toothed jaws and one of those handles that tighten the more pressure you put down on it. Locked it in place and stood on the handle and it finally started to shift.
Upon getting both out at last, one of the bearings was indeed as rough as old boots and dirty grease was leaking out of the edge of the bearing.
Question is, A: are they usually this tight and B: should I have expected the original one to last a bit longer? Bike is about 10 months old and hasn't done huge mileage and mostly in dry weather (I am a bit heavy though at 14 stone).
 
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User6179

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They can get tight if the threads are not greased properly or and salt water gets into them and that can corrode them , I am 15 stone and my external BB is just beginning to click after about 5000 miles .
 

BSRU

A Human Being
Location
Swindon
Should be copper greased and a torque wrench is handy to get to the right tightness, overtightening can shorten the life of the BB.
 
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3outof5

3outof5

Active Member
Location
Chester, UK
Thanks for the replies chaps, yes, I thought copper grease would have been sensible - after I'd reassembled everything :blush: However I did use Park Tools bike grease so should help a bit next time. Oh and I reckon I've only done around 1000-1500 miles on this bike.
 
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BSRU

A Human Being
Location
Swindon
Thanks for the replies chaps, yes, I thought copper grease would have been sensible - after I'd reassembled everything :blush: However I did use Park Tools bike grease so should help a bit next time. Oh and I reckon I've only done around 1000-1500 miles on this bike.
I do not know the reasoning for copper grease but when I was a powered two wheel user I was taught to use copper grease on parts that do not move to prevent them sticking together, such as brake calliper pots and brake pads.
 

gwhite

Über Member
Thanks for the replies chaps, yes, I thought copper grease would have been sensible - after I'd reassembled everything :blush: However I did use Park Tools bike grease so should help a bit next time. Oh and I reckon I've only done around 1000-1500 miles on this bike.

It would have been wise to use the proper tool for disassembly as the material used tends to be soft. However the problem of wear of the bearings will not be solved as it is one of faulty design in that that these bearings are vulnerable to water ingress. Being placed outside the frame in a place calculated to collect all the road surface water and salt is hardly a clever feature. I had to replace a friends Ultegra external bearings after one winter's use and only a few hundred miles. I'm supremely confident that I will have to repeat the exercise again next year.
 
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