Shifter clicks and number of gears

[Tommy2]

Evening, may seem like a daft question,

If there are 8 clicks on my shifter does that mean I should have a rear cassette with 9 sprockets and if its not essential then is it possible to add a cassette with 9 sprockets?

Reason I ask is the my for some reason I had it in my head that my bike was 9 speed so bought a 9 speed campagnolo cassette and chain for it but when I came to actually look at it there are I ly 8 sprockets but the shifter does seem to click 8 times and as there would only ever be 7 movements that makes me think.

Also the cassette I got has a lock ring but the cassette on the bike doesn't seem to, does anyone know the 8 speed lock ring set up?

Long winded I know but thanks for reading.

Cheers
Tom

 

[accountantpete]

8 clicks on the right hand means that it is a 9 speed shifter.

Campagnolo did do a Mirage 9 speed cassette/freehub which fitted to the Mirage hub in one piece - ie there was no need for a lockring because the sprockets were permanently fixed to the freehub.

I would start by dismantling the rear hub and see what you have.

 

[Tommy2]

Just checked again and It says 9 speed on the shifters, that's why I thought it was 9 speed, wondered how I got that in my head, and there are definatley 8 sprockets, I'm Not going mad lol!

If its built to the free hub doesn't that mean serious dismantling or a new wheel with freehub?

Thank Pete.

 

[Tommy2]

I must say when I had the wheel off I couldn't see a way that the sprockets came of the hub.

 

[accountantpete]

I'm not sure you can still buy the old one piece freehub/cassettes and Campagnolo made some minor design changes to the hub every other year so the hub might not take a 9spd cassette.

Has the hub got any markings on it? Is it campagnolo?.

 

[Tommy2]

haven't had chance to look at the actual hub yet as i am at work but after a bit of a search i found this on that sheldon brown webstite thing:

''Campagnolo Cassette Systems

Campagnolo 8-speed cassettes used a slightly different spline pattern from the current pattern used for 9-and 10-speed systems.
8-speed Campagnolo cassettes will not fit on newer "9-speed" and "10-speed" hubs.
9- and 10-speed Campagnolo cassettes will not fit on 8-speed hubs.
It is theoretically possible to upgrade Campagnolo 8-speed hubs with newer cassette bodies, but in practice the parts don't generally seem to be available.''

Which i think might mean i need to buy:
http://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/sp/ro...-rear-record-9-10-11-spd-road-hub/camphubr890

which at that price may be worth just buying these:
http://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/sp/ro...-black-white-clincher-wheels-pair/campwhfr627
if they include the hubs?

and fitting the 9 speed kmc chain and 9 speed miche cassette i purchased from ribble.

or am I completely off track there?

 

[accountantpete]

I would have a look at your hub first but it is probably pretty old and unless it is a Record hub it may not be worth messing about with.

The Khamsins are the entry level Campagnolo but are decent enough and will probably be l lot better than your existing wheels.

They come ready to roll - just slot on the cassette you bought and away you go! Make sure you specify the Campagnolo option.

 

[Tommy2]

I'm thinking of changing the wheels anyway and entry level is fine by me as I'm only entry level anyway ha ha.

I'll have a look at it this weekend then.

Cheers for the help Pete.

 

[Tommy2]

All I can see where the spikes attach to the hub is "shimano 600"

 

[accountantpete]

That's a Shimano block - so it will be a Shimano hub.

Can you check that you have Campagnolo Shifters and Campagnolo groupset or is it Shimano?

 

[Tommy2]

 

[jay clock]

all needs cleaning.....

 

[accountantpete]

Sounds like the previous owner has simply stuck a Shimano hubbed wheel on the bike to sell it. Does it actually shift properly?

Anyway -you have a 9spd Campagnolo groupset so you need a pair of Campagnolo 9/10spd wheels. (The hub can take both 9 or 10 speed cassettes).

 

[Tommy2]

Not properly but it does shift, sometimes misses cogs or needs and extra little nudge on the shifter to engage or even shift up 2 then down 1.

I thought it was just me.

New wheels it is then.

Thanks very much.