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cyberknight

As long as I breathe, I attack.
When cycling to work i get a lot of road buzz , cycling home i dont get it at all :wacko:

I use a hybird with no front forks , tried wearing 2 pairs of gloves and changing hand position regualry but still get it.

please note on a tight budget as work have gave us all a 30% pay cut with the recession so any responses have to be cheap ones :biggrin:
 

Gerry Attrick

Lincolnshire Mountain Rescue Consultant
Ah yes...that is the problem. No front forks would indeed result in much vibration. Fit them, along with a front wheel, tube and tyre, and all will be well:biggrin:
 

HJ

Cycling in Scotland
Location
Auld Reekie
It could be because you have aluminum forks, in which case changing for carbon may help. OK so that is not a budget option. The other thing you could do is fit a slightly wider tyres which you could run at lower pressure, this would lead to slightly more rolling resistance but in the real world this wouldn't greatly effect your commute (other than a lower top speed)...
 
I just ride with the front tyre not as hard as the back and that seems to keep it comfortable.
Also I got myself and the bike measured and adjusted so it was a good fit. This took some of the pressure off my arms and it is now really comfortable where I have has problems like you in the past.
 

Randochap

Senior hunter
Hairy Jock said:
The other thing you could do is fit a slightly wider tyres which you could run at lower pressure, this would lead to slightly more rolling resistance

Not necessarily.

I just got in from a 35 mile spin on my Bleriot. I am running 42mm tyres @ 60psi on it. They float over chip seal like a wind-driven cloud. I pulled away from my mate (on 700X27) on a particularly bumpy section. I was 100 yards in front of him in a mo.

Hard tyres on bumpy surfaces actually slow forward movement; in other words, increasing rolling resistance.
 

jimboalee

New Member
Location
Solihull
Randochap said:
Not necessarily.

I just got in from a 35 mile spin on my Bleriot. I am running 42mm tyres @ 60psi on it. They float over chip seal like a wind-driven cloud. I pulled away from my mate (on 700X27) on a particularly bumpy section. I was 100 yards in front of him in a mo.

Hard tyres on bumpy surfaces actually slow forward movement; in other words, increasing rolling resistance.

This is a strange one indeed.

On a surface with a LOT of texture, eg a chipstone road, a rock hard tyre will be continuously rolling against small hills due to the micro ( small anyway ) differences between the roughness of the surface.
A wider, softer tyre will absorb the differences and roll along as if it was a flat surface.

The immediate thought on this is "Harder is less Crr", which is true on a track or smooth tarmac road ( especially laid for big events ) and most roads in the UK and USA ( I cannot speak for Canada except for Quebec and Halifax which are a couple of thousand miles from Randochap ).

Where the grit is peculiarly large or broken up, the rolling is worse on hard tyres.

I ride 26 x 1 3/8" in winter and a rough section of my commute is smoother on this bike than my Giro 500 ( which seems to slow-up ).

On vibration. When you assess where the rough raod is, stand up slightly to let your legs take the vibration and hold the bars gently. There are gloves on the market for Hammer Drill operators etc.

My take on this is 'there are many more miles of smooth road, a few miles of rough are tolerated, so I ride on rock hard tyres to gain an overall advantage'.
 

ASC1951

Guru
Location
Yorkshire
cyberknight said:
...cycling home i dont get it at all
Try holding your hand up for more extra tasks than you can possibly cope with. Soon you will no longer get a buzz from going to work. ;)
 

Angelfishsolo

A Velocipedian
cyberknight said:
When cycling to work i get a lot of road buzz , cycling home i dont get it at all ;)

So the road surface is different on the other side of the road or you take a different route?

cyberknight said:
I use a hybird with no front forks , tried wearing 2 pairs of gloves and changing hand position regualry but still get it.
please note on a tight budget as work have gave us all a 30% pay cut with the recession so any responses have to be cheap ones ;)

The lack of front suspension is no bad thing if you ride on roads. Try putting 10% less air pressure in the front tyre than the back. Also (and this is just a though) take a look at brake alignment as they maybe a little of centre.
 

RedBike

New Member
Location
Beside the road
Cheap suspension forks probably wont help remove road buzz. They simply cannot react quick enough to remove vibration/buzz. A good quality 'rigid' carbon/steel fork will flex just enough to help remove this buzz.

If you keep your eyes pealled on ebay you might be lucky enough to pick up a good steel fork for £10/£20.

You also want to fit the widest tyre you can and run it at a low pressure. (Although this will ass rolling resistance)
 

Bodhbh

Guru
When I first started last year it bugged me for a couple of weeks with wrist ache and whatnot and I thought it was going to be a real pain, but the problem seemed to vanish on it's own - I guess you're muscles or whatever get used to it.
 

Banjo

Fuelled with Jelly Babies
Location
South Wales
Bodhbh said:
When I first started last year it bugged me for a couple of weeks with wrist ache and whatnot and I thought it was going to be a real pain, but the problem seemed to vanish on it's own - I guess you're muscles or whatever get used to it.


Im glad to read that. I have been riding an alluminium Hybrid with no suspension for about 5 weeks and have been getting a bit of pain in wrists and elbows .
I have raised the handlebars a bit for a more upright position which seems to be helping a bit ,hopefully like you I will get used to it.
 

RedBike

New Member
Location
Beside the road
Banjo said:
Im glad to read that. I have been riding an alluminium Hybrid with no suspension for about 5 weeks and have been getting a bit of pain in wrists and elbows .
I have raised the handlebars a bit for a more upright position which seems to be helping a bit ,hopefully like you I will get used to it.

Make sure your elbows are bent and there's very little weight on your hands
 
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