RIP Desmond Tutu

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sheddy

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Pale Rider

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Nothing I can add to his political achievements, so here's a trivial reference.

When my mate Jim had his minicab firm in London in the 80s all the drivers had a radio call sign - central - and a number, usually two figures.

Central 22 almost inevitably acquired the nickname of the bishop.

The holder of that number, a Welshman by the name of Noel, also has the dubious distinction of being the only person I've vaguely known to have been murdered.

He was seeing a lass much younger than him who was part of a fairly heavy duty criminal family.

They warned him off her a few times, he ignored the warnings (as did she), so the next stage was to stab him to death in his car as he was ranked up under a railway bridge in Bow.

Never solved, the why it happened was pretty much nailed on, but the who remained elusive.
 
A clear voice of reason during trouble times and after. His greatest achievement has to be the formation of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission. There was no desire to seek retribution or revenge. It was a concept foreign to many but it had powerful outcomes. I watched it in awe at the proceedings.

Years later I went to Soweto to see the houses of Mandela and Tutu for some sense of spiritual connection. There was a sense of tremendous calm as I left. One of the few decent things I did with my life.
 

Tribansman

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Nothing I can add to his political achievements, so here's a trivial reference.

When my mate Jim had his minicab firm in London in the 80s all the drivers had a radio call sign - central - and a number, usually two figures.

Central 22 almost inevitably acquired the nickname of the bishop.

The holder of that number, a Welshman by the name of Noel, also has the dubious distinction of being the only person I've vaguely known to have been murdered.

He was seeing a lass much younger than him who was part of a fairly heavy duty criminal family.

They warned him off her a few times, he ignored the warnings (as did she), so the next stage was to stab him to death in his car as he was ranked up under a railway bridge in Bow.

Never solved, the why it happened was pretty much nailed on, but the who remained elusive.
Interesting anecdote but very tenuous reference!
Prefer his name being used for the degree classification. I really hope every honorary degree he was ever given (loads according to Wikipedia) was specified as a 2:2.

Agree as someone without any faith that he was one of the religious figures I always had time for. He seemed much more everyman than most and didn't have any of the smug piousness of your Rowan Williamses, your George Careys, your Cormac O'Connors
 

Pale Rider

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Prefer his name being used for the degree classification. I really hope every honorary degree he was ever given (loads according to Wikipedia) was specified as a 2:2.

Ah yes, that's another one.

I've heard Durham University students refer to a 2:2 as a Desmond.
 
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Nothing I can add to his political achievements, so here's a trivial reference.

When my mate Jim had his minicab firm in London in the 80s all the drivers had a radio call sign - central - and a number, usually two figures.

Central 22 almost inevitably acquired the nickname of the bishop.

The holder of that number, a Welshman by the name of Noel, also has the dubious distinction of being the only person I've vaguely known to have been murdered.

He was seeing a lass much younger than him who was part of a fairly heavy duty criminal family.

They warned him off her a few times, he ignored the warnings (as did she), so the next stage was to stab him to death in his car as he was ranked up under a railway bridge in Bow.

Never solved, the why it happened was pretty much nailed on, but the who remained elusive.
Top thread hop there Mr rider. :smile:
 
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I used to go to a fair few anti apartheid things in london when that evil regime was in power, excused and white-washed by many.
Well remember hearing him speak in Hyde Park - an incredible blend of calm justified moral anger, fury, humanity and humour.
I'm an atheist, at times verging on virulent, but if anyone could have got me to jump onboard it would be Tutu.
Especially when you think of so many of his compatriots through the ages who have glossed/pandered to evil regimes.
RIP Desmond.
I sense that there will be a strong thread of celebration as part of the mourning process in SA.
 
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