Researching 1st Tourer...

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puch

Regular
Hi. I decided a touring bike is where I'm at, as I'm looking for long range comfort and something good for shorter day potters around the county. My budget peaks at about £800 which is 'budget' tourer territory.

Here are the shortlist finalists:

Revolution Country Traveller
Revolution Country Explorer
Dawes Karakum 2013
Ridgeback Voyage 2013
Ridgeback Tour 2013

(Raleigh Royal - rejected due to generally poor reviews).


I started off with the tourer 'Steel vs Aluminium issue' which after much reading of opinions doesn't appear to be an issue at all, as most informed opinion says it's the tires that make the most difference (correct me if wrong). Some even dislike the springy steel feel prefering the stiffer Alu frames.

Then it was the '700 vs 26" wheel issue' settled in favour of 700 rims.

Finally, it's boiling down to brakes... I've read so much about brakes having a make or break effect on a bike, I decided to focus on bikes with good installed brakes. The RC Traveller has mediocre-poor Tektro 992AG which can be replaced with the better Tektro CR-520.

The RC Explorer has Avid BB5 discs (inferior to BB7's) which have ok but not excellent reviews. I was on the fence about discs for a while, but have decided cantilevers are the way to go for simplicity and bombproof proven design.

Brakewise, the Ridgebacks are a bit of a contradiction as the less expensive Tour, has the apparently better brakes (Tektro CR-510). The Voyage has the Tektro 992AG which has mediocre to poor reviews.

The Karakum has the excellent Shimano BR-M422 V-brake, which I've yet to read a negative review of. The Karakum looks interesting - a Dawes for reasonable money with butterfly bars and good reviews.

I assume the frame & gearing is probably far more important than the brake set up for long term satisfaction, but I don't have the bike tech savvy to decode all those gearing numbers in the bike specs and, I imagine all the finalists have an adequate spread of gear ratio's.

So there it is. I'll probably find something else to add to the three finalists, no doubt...
 

Monsieur

Senior member
Location
Lincolnshire
Can't offer any help with the others but I'd recommend the Dawes Karakum - I've got the 2011 version (via gumtree) and its the easiest bike I've ever ridden. Everything works as it should and the butterfly bars are a godsend on a longer ride
 

Rickshaw Phil

Overconfidentii Vulgaris
Moderator
To compare the gears between bikes understanding "gear inches" helps a lot.

This is a figure that is worked out by dividing the number of teeth on the chain ring in use by the number of teeth on the sprocket then multiplying it by the diameter of the wheel (including tyre). For example: for the Karakum, the lowest gear is 26T divided by 32T x 27 inches (roughly) which gives a figure of 21.93 gear inches.

The number you get at the end represents the diameter the wheel would have to be on a penny-farthing to get the same gearing.^_^ It's more useful than it sounds because it makes it easy to compare one bike to another.

At the low end, below about 35 gear inches will give a good climbing gear and below 25 gear inches will get you up almost anything, while up at the top end, 90 gear inches or more would give a reasonable high speed gear while over 100 gear inches is getting into racer territory.

To save working it out for yourself there are gear calculators online, like HERE.

I hope this makes sense.:thumbsup:
 

Nebulous

Guru
Location
Aberdeen
I have an RC traveller - last years model and it doesn't have those brakes, it has black ones that look like the cr250s. They used to have a high definition photo on their website but it seems to no longer be there. The brakes weren't very good and went through the pads quite quickly. I replaced them with longer pads with metal casings and it has certainly improved the braking.
Wheels have been slightly troublesome - spokes kept loosening and eventually I glued the nipples. Apart from that I really like it. I do a very short commute on it every day with occasional longer rides.
 
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puch

puch

Regular

Edinburghbikes will replace the Avid BB5's for the BB7's for 70 quid each. It does knock the price up but everyone says it's a worthwhile upgrade.
 
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