Personnel qualified experts required

[Willow]

Part of your working day is one hour to open building, no one else is there at that time you are trusted to do what you are paid to do. A passing comment makes bosses look to check the CCTV and it is found that the individual only comes in for 10 minutes and that is an hour after individual is supposed to be there. What case is there to answer

 

[papercorn2000]

Don't look good. Is it a regular thing or a one off?

 

[col]

Well if they are supposed to be there an hour before its open,it could be for a reason like early arrivals?but if its just to open up then they might call the time and motion people in and reassess time needed?

 

[Willow]

unfortunately the CCTV pictures are only held for a week but every day of that week so looks pretty regular. I have other means of checking with other suppliers. If he is being paid for that time and not working (he could be doing other parts of his job) is that gross misconduct akin to stealing?

 

[papercorn2000]

I would say so...

 

[col]

If he is knowingly being paid for time he is not there for,then i think he could be in bother,unless he was told this is the allowance but if your done quicker then fine.

 

[Rhythm Thief]

Slightly OT, but I used to work for a driving agency. One night they sent me in to City Link as a standby driver. The first night, I reported to the office and gave them my mobile number, as requested. They then said "go and get yourself a brew, we'll phone you when we need you." All night, I sat around drinking tea and reading before going home having never received a phone call. The next night, I did exactly the same, only I went home after giving them my phone number. And for the next three or four nights too. I never did get found out.

 

[mondobongo]

Does the person concerned complete some sort of Timesheet for this hour? If they do and are showing as being there for an hour then it is falsifying company documents and would class as Gross Misconduct with most companies and as such dismissable.

What was agreed with the person when they started doing it was it recorded in writing? Verbal agreement can be argued and are open to interpretation.

Depending on how far the Company wants to push then in the absence of Timesheets or written agreement. Disciplinary Procedures could be based on behaviour that causes the Company to lose faith in a persons integrity.

 

[Willow]

If he is knowingly being paid for time he is not there for,then i think he could be in bother,unless he was told this is the allowance but if your done quicker then fine.

No he should be working for the whole hour, he has various shifts during the day.

 

[col]

No he should be working for the whole hour, he has various shifts during the day.

I take it he has other duries that may need doing in this hour too?If so then he could be in a spot of hot water if videos show him not arriving till after this hour on a regular basis?

 

[Willow]

Does the person concerned complete some sort of Timesheet for this hour? If they do and are showing as being there for an hour then it is falsifying company documents and would class as Gross Misconduct with most companies and as such dismissable.

What was agreed with the person when they started doing it was it recorded in writing? Verbal agreement can be argued and are open to interpretation.

Depending on how far the Company wants to push then in the absence of Timesheets or written agreement. Disciplinary Procedures could be based on behaviour that causes the Company to lose faith in a persons integrity.

No timesheets and in any case they could be falsified if no one else is around at that time. Hours are agreed in writing though contract gives us flexibility to change. It is the integrity that is the problem as during the rest of the year he is on his own in the premises working for longer spells. I often go in and there is no sign ...blah blah blah don't want to say too much really.

 

[Mr Pig]

Has a new series of Big Brother started already?

 

[Willow]

Has a new series of Big Brother started already?

probably but 20% of your working day is quite a lot not to be working for!

 

[peanut]

unfortunately the CCTV pictures are only held for a week but every day of that week so looks pretty regular. I have other means of checking with other suppliers. If he is being paid for that time and not working (he could be doing other parts of his job) is that gross misconduct akin to stealing?

yes it is I would say it is one of the few transgressions that would warrant summary dismissal without warning.

That individual is trusted to keep the building secure and safe for both the company's interests and the safety of the employees.

 

[Nicensleazy]

Its an integrity issue........perhaps a warning etc