Paris - RLJ does not lead to more accidents

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Brandane

Legendary Member
Location
Costa Clyde
Yes; it's no big deal anyway if done with a degree of common sense.
 

sidevalve

Über Member
Yes; it's no big deal anyway if done with a degree of common sense.
But be honest - it will not be done with a degree of sense will it ? It will just be used by any muppet who fancies his chances to have a go and stuff the consequences. Then if he gets killed we will hear the usual bleat 'oh he wasn't doing anything wrong - it was somebody else's fault'.
 

gavroche

Getting old but not past it
Location
North Wales
H&S have stopped kids playing conkers, an innocent game. You even need a certificate to be able to go up a ladder/ stepladder. What a joke!
 

stoatsngroats

Legendary Member
Location
South East
H&S is full of urban myth and often misunderstood. Health and safety doesn't necessarily prevent tasks, but seeks to reduce the potential for harm, by inviting a risk assessment, which, if done properly will give an idea what risk prevention measures can be introduced to reduce that risk. one example is skiing, which has inherent risks, yet is not 'banned' by health and safety. Conkers in schools, has been mis-reported as a H&S banned activity, when in fact it was an insurance control. http://www.hse.gov.uk/myth/september.htm see others HERE

If, as the Paris story states, there was a period of study resulting in a reduction in accidents, (which I think is what H&S sets out to achieve), it is understandable that the 'giving way' rather than stopping, and queueing beside motor vehicles can reduce accidents. One of the big problems with RLJ'ers is the speed with which cyclists cross beyond the stop line, and giving way means just that - (no 'right of way') which is covered by the 'must cede to pedestrians and other road users'.

I thinks it;s a great way to change the management of junctions, which all to often are traversed with too high a speed - if roundabouts are driven slowly, the spaces to enter become much more manageable, and traffic flows much more smoothly.

:popcorn:
 

Drago

Legendary Member
...if done with a degree of common sense.

I think you've just highlighted the problem.

It would need trialling here. The Paris example is suggestive, but as with many things is far from guaranteed to translate here with the same results, where traffic regulations differ and we drive on the opposite side of the road.
 
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