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joanne

Member
hi just wanted some advice on which mtb to buy, ive been looking around as you do, reading all the mags and reviews but as a beginner to mtb really not sure, just wondering what real riders would recommend. i am a 5ft lady who doesnt want a ladies bike, im mainly interested in cross country trail riding rather than full on mountain biking i have a specilized road bike at the moment and a carrera subway hybrid.i do have a budget of up to £700.
 

al-fresco

Growing older but not up...
Location
Shropshire
I would look for shops selling 2012 models which should be heavily discounted around now. Last year I picked up an aluminium framed hardtail on-line from the Edinburgh Bike Co-op - it came with Rockshox air forks, Avid Juicy disc brakes and Shimano SLX gears for £500 and, as well as country tracks, towpaths and bridleways, it's handled Scottish wilderness, Welsh bogs and the red trail at Llandegla without breaking. All in the hands of a complete novice. I think it turned out to be a very good buy. The only thing I've upgraded in the first 1,000 miles were the pedals.

Yeah, I'd love a carbon framed 29er but your budget (and mine) - I'd look for something with the best combination of hydraulic discs, decent forks and quality gearing that I could get.
 

lulubel

Über Member
Location
Malaga, Spain
Why do you not want a ladies bike? At your height, you won't get much choice in unisex frames because most manufacturers who have a separate ladies range only go down to around 15 or 16 inches in unisex. That will probably be too big for you.

To give you an idea, my OH is 5ft6 and rides a 16 inch frame, I'm 5ft2 and ride a 13 inch ladies frame (although I would have been OK with the 15 inch version of the same bike, but I got mine in a sale and the 15 inch was sold out).
 
As above, go for a '11 or '12 and you could get a steal with up to 60% off brand new. At your size it may be worth trying a women's specific mtb as they cater for the shorter reach etc that girls have so you can have a men's spec mtb but not have a short stem fitted which can effect handling as its unlikely you would wider bars which counteract this. In the last few years manufactures have realised the market for women's bikes and they are really good, although downside is that they are hard to come by in the sales!

If you are unsure of what you want then sticking to the big brands Boardman, specialized, marin, trek etc won't see you far wrong.
 

Motozulu

Über Member
Location
Rugeley, Staffs
I'd definately recommend that you try one for size, whatever you go for - as has been said with you being a small lady the sizing difference you get between bike makers could be crucial.
 

Licramite

Über Member
Location
wiltshire
have you considered clothing.
my advice is (depending on the sort of off roading you do) don't be foolied by magazines - wear long trousers !.
I ride along tracks and bridlepaths , this time of year thier muddy but ok, come summer they get very overgrown and your legs get cut to bits.
long sleeves are advisable and gloves ( of course)
Helmet is a definate, not just for coming off (as you will) but or overhanging branches, bramble bushes, I werar a closed in one as opposed to a road helmet but you can get away with a road one but bits get in your helmet.
if you go for clipless pedals I think the type that has a pedal aswell as a clip is best
 

trio25

Über Member
Why definetly not a women's specific bike? I am 5'3" and have rode both, shorter than me and you will struggle on a unisex bike. Women's specific bikes have got a lot better in recent years!

The biggest thing is fit, is spesh fit well for road bike might be worth looking at their mtb's.
 

BikeLiker

Senior Member
Location
Wirral
Why definetly not a women's specific bike? I am 5'3" and have rode both, shorter than me and you will struggle on a unisex bike. Women's specific bikes have got a lot better in recent years!

The biggest thing is fit, is spesh fit well for road bike might be worth looking at their mtb's.


I think you're right to avoid women's frames. Mrs BikeLiker bought a Women's GT avalanche and it was dreadful - like riding a shopping back with absurdly short reach. My impression of them is that they're aimed at people who like the idea of an MTB but don't want to be inconvenienced by a crossbar.
 

rudis_dad

Member
Location
Burnley, Lancs
My impression of them is that they're aimed at people who like the idea of an MTB but don't want to be inconvenienced by a crossbar.

Think you might be missing the point here - a WSD frame is just like the unisex version (usually) but with a shorter front centre, since women are usually proportionally shorter in the torso and longer in the leg than men. Thus a unisex frame even with a shorter stem may be too long for some ladies.

And besides which, you don't see many lady MTBers wearing skirts these days...:rolleyes:
 

Licramite

Über Member
Location
wiltshire
I would give a thought to tyres to. - if your only doing trails and bridle paths you might be better off looking at something less nobbly , nimbus sports or such like.
(I,ve got nobblys on mine and I must change them as when I'm on the road it goes like a wheelbarrow ! and I generally stick to trails and bridlepaths so I din't need full nobblys)
 

BikeLiker

Senior Member
Location
Wirral
Think you might be missing the point here - a WSD frame is just like the unisex version (usually) but with a shorter front centre, since women are usually proportionally shorter in the torso and longer in the leg than men. Thus a unisex frame even with a shorter stem may be too long for some ladies.

And besides which, you don't see many lady MTBers wearing skirts these days...:rolleyes:

I understand the thinking but I think, on the Avalanche at least, it was taken way too far. The GTW on the left has a steeper sloping, lower crossbar and therefore, a less rigid frame.
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joanne

joanne

Member
seems quite a controversial topic to go lady or not lady being small i totally get the shorter reach thing but they do tend to be less serious bikes for girls especially when they insist on putting pink colour schemes on them
 

rudis_dad

Member
Location
Burnley, Lancs
The GTW on the left has a steeper sloping, lower crossbar and therefore, a less rigid frame.

Sorry, but that simply isn't true. A smaller frame is going to to be stiffer than a larger frame all day long, simply because of the reduction in leverage.

It's clear that you don't know much about engineering, frame design and triangulation or material properties.
 
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