Migraine dissapated

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ZIZAG

Veteran
Location
NW . Cheshire
:rolleyes: Hi Everybody .
I am a migraine sufferer . Over many many years . I have tried all sorts of sports hydration drinks over the years as a runner /jogger . And now cyclist .
One particular brand I used to swear by . (Was High five Isostar ). Which I used to buy at my local cycle shop . On a regular basis . Over about 10 years . I was mainly running half marathons then . I found using this I got sickly and slightly nauseous whilst running and felt close to throwing up at the end of the race . And always got a migraine as well .At the finish .I put this down to the exertion . As I am old 65 years now I try harder .
So Just by chance I was In Decathalon and I spotted some Isostar a couple of quid cheaper . I decided to buy a tub .
And low and behold the description said " Isostar Hydrate perform sensitive "................ Sport drink soft flavour fruits . And
> Neutral ph
> No Acidity
>Isotonic . Digest plus . So I made up 500mls bottles . And used for runs and cycles . It tastes yuk . Powdery very much like Diaralyte . But I got used to it . And found I did not get all the symptons I used to get . Also I did not have a migraine at the end of hard races or long 30/40mile cycles . I 've checked the labels . And the 2 different drinks have the usual Ingredients .
I.E . Maltodextrins dextrose sucrose fructose and a whole raft of flavourings etc. It appears to have helped me an alliviated the migraines ?
Anybody else experienced this !!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Manonabike

Über Member
I also get migraines after long rides or runs..... last year I tried some of these drinks at a sportive and it made me feel sick so I'm a little reluctant to buy any now :biggrin:
 

PaulB

Legendary Member
Location
Colne
I also get migraines after long rides or runs..... last year I tried some of these drinks at a sportive and it made me feel sick so I'm a little reluctant to buy any now :biggrin:

Me and a colleague have identical triggers for migraines and I know these are common amongst other migraine sufferers as well. I pretty much stopped migraine attacks, reducing them from about 20 a year to somewhere in the region of one every eighteen months. This was through learning what the triggers were and eliminating them and running (to be honest, I only cycle as much as I do because I can't run at the old level any more due to overdoing it and injuries - cycling is the nearest substitute, but not as good!). Cheese, wine and chocolate don't trigger attacks in me, regardless of the amount consumed. The triggers for me and my mate are; caffeine (easily the biggest trigger - I can't drink any coke or coffee at all), anything containing whey (usually protein/energy bars) and MSG, also knows as E621. Further investigation shows that some foodstuffs can be converted to MSG or pre-cursers to MSG in the particularly sensitive. So for me, and my Nigerian colleague, all sports drinks are verboten in case they contain, somewhere in their myriad chemical structures, something that can be converted to whey in our bodies.

Hope this is of some use.
 
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ZIZAG

Veteran
Location
NW . Cheshire
F.Y.I. :biggrin: Manonabike & PaulB . Many thanks for your Input .

My Migraines were mostly triggered by Stress Anxiety Work related over the last 15 years . Before I retired prematuerly at sixty four . I had to leave due to high blood pressure . Which would have caused Irrepairable damage if I did not get away from the job that was causing my problem . I even had a referral for the Pain Managment clinic . For a course of Acupuncture . This did help .
As soon as I retired the migraine attacks went away slowly . And my bp went down to normal . And Is very good now . I have always had a low pulse rate 48 to 58.. On rising . I have always been fit and very keen on sports Football swimming Running and now Cycling . That Is why I could not understand . Why my bp went high . but I realise now It was all Work stress related . I also think chocolates /cheese can start migraines . But as regards to colourings flavourings preseratives . I am sure they dont help any of us . Certainly Monasodium Glutamate . I stay well clear off . Also Caffeine . I have De-caf coffee only . I bought some gells also recently with caffeine . And I had stomach cramp and felt sickly . I have taken to Cycling at a late stage . But its fantastic . Especially all the banter fun knowledge and experiance . Also the Camaraderie. Its a great Forum . So I am really enjoying my Cycling now . And looking forward to longer cycles . And small expeditions cycling and camping out . :rolleyes: :hello: Cheers
 

Banjo

Fuelled with Jelly Babies
Location
South Wales
I think its easy to jump to conclusions sometimes. I did a 101 mile ride last saturday on exactly what I allways eat which is jellybabies, flapjack, nuts ,and a bacon and egg sandwich at lunchtime with plain water in the bottles.

For the first time I felt slightly sick at the end.Had I tried a new sports drink that day i would be blaming it ,as it is its just one of lifes mysteries.

Roll on summer, its much easier getting to the jellybabies with fingerless gloves :biggrin:
 

Manonabike

Über Member
Me and a colleague have identical triggers for migraines and I know these are common amongst other migraine sufferers as well. I pretty much stopped migraine attacks, reducing them from about 20 a year to somewhere in the region of one every eighteen months. This was through learning what the triggers were and eliminating them and running (to be honest, I only cycle as much as I do because I can't run at the old level any more due to overdoing it and injuries - cycling is the nearest substitute, but not as good!). Cheese, wine and chocolate don't trigger attacks in me, regardless of the amount consumed. The triggers for me and my mate are; caffeine (easily the biggest trigger - I can't drink any coke or coffee at all), anything containing whey (usually protein/energy bars) and MSG, also knows as E621. Further investigation shows that some foodstuffs can be converted to MSG or pre-cursers to MSG in the particularly sensitive. So for me, and my Nigerian colleague, all sports drinks are verboten in case they contain, somewhere in their myriad chemical structures, something that can be converted to whey in our bodies.

Hope this is of some use.

Very interesting!!!!! I have heard this before but coffee or coke have no adverse effect on me at all. On the other hand, dehydration will certainly trigger a migraine.

Last year I tried one of those hydration drinks and it made me feel sick.

Red wine and alcohol in excess will also trigger a migraine for me.... luckily I hardly drink but when I do I try to drink two or three glasses of water for every glass of red wine I drink and that prevents it.

Long rides and runs still bring migraines for me..... last week ride, only 50 miles, I drank probably 2.5 litres of water and I still got a migraine..... on the other hand my riding mate only drank 750 ml and was fine.

My migraines are a family problem. My mum had them, and now my brothers and sister also have them. Unfortunately my kids have also inherited them.

I'm a really lazy water drinker..... sometimes, when I'm busy I can go the whole day with 2 or 3 cups of tea. I don't feel thirsty but my urine can get very dark and smelly.... when that happens I know I need to get some liquid soon or a migraine would be inevitable.

In summer, there are times that I get into the habit of drinking frequently and that coincides with no migraines so I'm sure my problem is dehydration.
 

Garz

Squat Member
Location
Down
Haha very true banjo, I even took my winter gloves off for half the ride today as my habds got too sweaty. They had to come back on though for some heavy descending as it gets baltic pretty quick.
 

Rubber Bullets

Senior Member
Location
Torbay
Very interesting!!!!! I have heard this before but coffee or coke have no adverse effect on me at all. On the other hand, dehydration will certainly trigger a migraine.

I'm in a similar position. I'm 44 and have had migraine all my life, but have no idea what triggers most of them, but dehydration and wrong nutrition can. Back when i used to play squash I would get a migraine if I eat a Mars bar after I'd finished playing, but would not get one if I ate it any other time! Red wine, cheese, chocolate (this example aside) have never been triggers in my case.

One thing that has always triggered attacks, going back to my school days, is pain. The sort of short sharp excruciating pain that sometimes comes from a fall, but wears off very quickly. I would often get a migraine within an hour of that. I have had 2 nasty crashes in the last three months, and neither have resulted in attacks so maybe that is changing for me.

Strangely though I read this thread on Friday night, and then got a migraine within 1/2 an hour, so perhaps that's a new trigger for me!

RB
 

zoxed

Über Member
Not related to sport but my late father used to suffer a lot from bad migraines was I was a kid till he noticed that they came on if he did not have a drink or snack mid-afternoon. A couple of sugar cubes was enough to stop them coming on. As it was a pure sugar intake I recently wondered if it was some symptom of a low grade diabetes ?
 

photography27

Active Member
Location
Swansea
i found that, when i drunk high energy drinks i get migraines from them, think it was to much of a sugar rush for the brain.
Nuts, cheese and monitors set my migraines off, so i avoid these and wear glasses for the monitors.
migraines are aweful, i have to lock myself up in a dark room and sleep, i can sleep from 4hrs to 2 days!!
wish they would hurry up and find out what exactly causes them
 

zoxed

Über Member
Nuts, cheese and monitors set my migraines off
I guess you already know that the former 2 are not uncommon allergies: if you were curious you could have an allergy test.
It is also possible that some energy drinks either have nut-derived protein in them, or are "made on a line that may have been used for nuts".
 
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