Is it wrong to SORT OF jump red lights?

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Johnny5

New Member
Location
Manchester
I know running red lights while cycling is wrong but what about if you know the lights are about to change and you just got a bit of a head start to clip your peddles in, would that be wrong too?
 

zimzum42

Legendary Member
I don't think it's wrong at all, but the beard and sandals crew will be along soon to tell you how you're making it worse for everyone and should probably hang yourself....
 

grhm

Veteran
I'd say its wrong - but wouldn't go so far as to say you should hang yourself.

If the previous phase of the lights is a pedestrian only phase and they're all clear, then no real harm will probably come of it. But if the previous phase was for cars, then you run the risk of meeting a late "amber gambler"/straight out red light jumper.

I've taken an "early green" once and had to stop as a van tried to cross after his lights has gone red - probably thinking he could cross the junction before the other lights went green.
 

Dan B

Disengaged member
Pragmatically, it helps to know the junction and how the lights are timed. Otherwise you may find you're setting off early at the same time someone coming the other way is setting off late, and splat.
 

Rhythm Thief

Legendary Member
Location
Ross on Wye
It's not as bad as mis - spelling "pedals":smile:
Seriously, I don't think there's anything wrong with anticipating the lights, as long as you remain alert. Hell, I do it in my artic sometimes.
 

zimzum42

Legendary Member
Whether I am in a car or on the bike, I normally watch the other set of lights. When they go red, I am ready to move off so when mine go green I am moving. With the bike I tend already to be rolling, I'll already have made sure I'm clipped in etc...
 

jimboalee

New Member
Location
Solihull
99% of mornings when I approach the first set of lights of my commute, they are against me.
This is at 5 o'clock in the morning ( in the middle of the night ).

There is no other traffic, I turn left.
There is a car going through, I trackstand until its gone and then turn left.
 

Eviljeem

New Member
Personally I stop at all lights. The amount of times I have nearly hit a cyclist in my car, because they have jumped reds is beyond a joke.

A while ago, in the papers there was an old lady who hit a cyclist with her handbag as she was crossing the road, because he went through the reds at a pedestrian crossing. Sadly, I completely agreeed with what she did.
 

summerdays

Cycling in the sun
Location
Bristol
Most light junctions around here there is always someone going through on a red light so I wouldn't take the risk - even when I set off when they are green they may be one or two cars crossing the junction in front of me. If you know the lights just be ready to go on green - safer.

I have also noticed that occasionally when I have anticipated the change incorrectly that the car behind has automatically started to follow then has to quickly brake realising I haven't gone. They kind of look for movement from the person in front at of the queue rather than actually watching the lights.
 

ianrauk

Tattooed Beat Messiah
Location
Rides Ti2
Exactly.....

coruskate said:
Pragmatically, it helps to know the junction and how the lights are timed. Otherwise you may find you're setting off early at the same time someone coming the other way is setting off late, and splat.
 

wyno70

New Member
When I'm approaching lights I look to see whats approaching from other directions, if it's clear I'm going whether they are red orange or green. If I can't see I dont go.

I think I'm old enough to make my own decisions.

Shoot me down in flames..............................
 

colinr

Well-Known Member
Location
Norwich
Pedestrian crossings with no pedestrians don't count as real red lights either. Especially not when travelling uphill on a slight upward incline.
 

fossyant

Ride It Like You Stole It!
Location
South Manchester
Red lights mean stop.

If you get hit, you won't have a leg to stand on (literally and legally). Repairing damage to bodies can be expensive, time consuming and painful - don't jump.

Nothing wrong with getting ready to ride, but be wary of the amber gambler from the other direction.

Also sets a bad example.....
 
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