Installing new gear shifters...quick question!

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BlackSwan83

Active Member
Hi All,

Not installed gear shifters before but some arrived the other day.

1 - Does it matter what gear the shifters are in when installing them (such as the on mine the red line to rat left or right on the shifters themselves?)

2 - From YouTube it says to make sure the gear is on the smallest set of teeth on the rear but does it matter what set of teeth for the front?

Will give it a go on Friday so any tips would be appreciated.

Many thanks

Sam
 

Cameronmu917772

Well-Known Member
Location
Fife
It doesn't matter because you will be release both derailleurs before you disconnect your shifters.
Once you connect your new shifters you will have to reset both to suit. So rather than explain setting up gears from scratch. If you want more info drop me a message and I will send you a link.
I do hope that is the info you were after?
 

RecordAceFromNew

Swinging Member
Location
West London
Hi All,

Not installed gear shifters before but some arrived the other day.

1 - Does it matter what gear the shifters are in when installing them (such as the on mine the red line to rat left or right on the shifters themselves?)

2 - From YouTube it says to make sure the gear is on the smallest set of teeth on the rear but does it matter what set of teeth for the front?

Will give it a go on Friday so any tips would be appreciated.

Many thanks

Sam

Sure it does matter. Your shifters should always be in the gear that lets as much cable out as possible - generally* that means highest gear for the right, rear shifter and lowest gear for the left, front shifter. The reason that being the case is when cable is not attached the rear mech generally* defaults to the smallest sprocket (highest gear) while the front mech defaults to the smallest chainring (lowest gear!), both of which can then be consistent with the shifter settings when you take the tension out of the inner cables.

* exception you might encounter is with a low normal (also called rapid rise) rear mech, where the opposite applies (contrary to what that youtube video says).
 
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BlackSwan83

BlackSwan83

Active Member
Thanks for the feedback.
I just have these shifters and they came with the cable already attached. So i just need to feed it along into the de railer.
Does it matter what gear the chain is on for the front of the bike (i have 3 different sizes) ...i will put the back gear on the smallest cog

Thanks again
 

02GF74

Über Member
yes, chain should be on the smallest cog as the front mech will not be pulled by the cable and shifter needs to be in correspdonding position. you will attach the cable to the mech and move the mech a little bit towards the middle ring so as to take up the cable slack - if too much slack is taken, loosen the bolt on the mech to let the cable slip out.
 

Nigeyy

Legendary Member
As others have said, yes, both front and rear should be in the position where there is the least amount of cable pull when you are first putting the derailleurs on. However, I don't think that's entirely clear as you don't want to do this when you first start to try to adjust the gears:

1. attach both derailleurs on the bike (I'm assuming you have the correct height for the front derailleur worked out -look at the manual that came with the front derailleur -Shimano seems to always have a guide -otherwise google is your friend.)
2.run the chain through (again, assume you have worked out the correct length of the chain)
3. eye ball the front derailleur so that it's in the correct position for the chain in the smallest ring or the ring that has the least cable pull (this may involve adjusting the limit screws).
4. If you have a barrel adjuster (whether at the shifter or top tube) screw if out a couple of turns. Attach the front cable to the front derailleur, trying to keep enough tension just so it doesn't move the derailleur (you may want to manually push the front derailleur and and attach the cable at the same time to help this). There's no other way of saying this: it just takes a bit a practice. Note: if you are over tension, you can use the barrel adjuster to slacken the cable (you did turn it out a couple of turns, right?)
5. Once you've done this, you've installed the front derailleur roughly. Put your front shifter in the middle chainring position (or if a double, whichever front ring you use the most). This should shift your chain appropriately (it may be you have to adjust the cable tension and subsequently the limit screws -again, just a matter of practice with this.
6. Once your chain is in the most "neutral" front chainring position, you can attach the rear derailleur cable and adjust it. Again, make sure your rear shifter is at its shortest cable pull, and that your rear derailleur is in the correct position for the smallest gear, or at the shortest cable pull position (again, you may have to use the limit screws for this). Again, turn the adjuster barrel a couple of turns out.
7. install the cable to the rear derailleur in similar fashion to the front; that is, try to keep some tension (again you can push your derailleur a bit to help get this tension as you are attaching the cable) while not moving the rear derailleur out of position.
8. While the chain is in the front "neutral" chainring, you can go through the rear gears and adjust cable tension and limit screws appropriately. Once done, you can tackle the front derailleur for fine tuning. Keep in mind if you cross chain, you can't always expect perfect alignment -i.e. the chain might catch on the front derailleur.

Looking back, it seems like I've typed a lot -but it's really not that hard. Just a case of practice really and you do stuff without thinking about it. This certainly isn't the only way to do this, but just the way I tend to find works for me over the years, so adjust to your own preference.
 
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