how to lacing

[grishaaa]

for the first time trying to rebuild a wheel by Sheldon Brown guide and some funny youtube videos,and everything was fine until i noticed on sticky spokes(each 3 sticky through 1 normal).i dont know how to count a crosses,but I did everything exactly according to instructions.spokes is suitable size-its 100%,i didnt change them.is there problem with rim hole side/spoke side?how to possibly correct it then?

 

[Yellow Saddle]

Your crosses have gone wrong. If you look at the wheel side-on, you must focus on the triangles formed by the spokes. You will notice that there are some tall triangles and some short triangles.

Also, you have may skipped some holes. Check that the spokes alternate at the rim as left, right, left, right, left, right etc. I think you will find that there are two of the same following each other.

Start over.

 

[grishaaa]

Start over.

will be try again

 

[Nibor]

Read Roger Mussons ebook it is excellent

 

[grishaaa]

so,im went through it again,right flange to right rim holes,left-to-left,but anyway spokes is not under the rim,whats can be then?nipples are screwing much hard despite on acetone and grease,few spokes was broken while.therefore i dont want to rush tighten them further.

 

[Yellow Saddle]

Are you sure your spokes are the right length. Give me the rim ERD, the type of hub, the number of spokes and crossings and I'll calculate it for you.

 

[Yellow Saddle]

You have a four cross wheel? Are you sure that is what you want.

 

[grishaaa]

You have a four cross wheel? Are you sure that is what you want.

this wheel was complete,initially. triangles is same,its just blackout pics,sorry for that, its very boring and dreary,but fully assumably depend of this wheel,and in my city no adequate bike services,and acquaintances cyclists is not a lot,to..so,i have to do everything by myself(thanks for advices).

when tightening the spokes will seem above even more,right?apparently i have to relacing it by 4 cross?

 

[the snail]

What have you changed - rim/spokes/hub? If you're reusing all the original components (i.e. the spoke lengths are correct) then I think it needs to be laced 4x instead of 3x (which is what it looks like to me, although my eyes are going a bit funny looking at those pics).

 

[Yellow Saddle]

It appears from your photos that every fourth spoke is wrong. Please confirm the following:
1) How many crosses do you want in the finished wheel?
2) Did you keep the left and right spokes separate? Remember, they are different lengths.
3) Take each spoke in turn and count how many crosses it makes.
4) At the rim, the spokes alternate left right left right, perfectly, all the way around?

 

[Yellow Saddle]

If you look at the red spoke only. Can you tell me how many times it crosses other spokes from the same side of the wheel? I count three but I'm not sure.

 

[Yellow Saddle]

Have a look at the coloured triangles.

Are they all the same size? I think some are longer than the others, which indicate a problem with the spoke hole positioning. I can't see properly from the photo, it was taken at an angle and the good face-on photo is too dark.

 

[grishaaa]

thanks to all
sides of flange and rim is correct and now it have 3 cross(how it was),i dont know,just want to fix that,not matter..will be trying relacing until they fit.
im will reported on my progress later

 

[Yellow Saddle]

I think I can spot your problem. You have two spokes from the same side of the flange next to each other. Look at the 5-past-12 position and tell me that isn't two spokes from the opposite side?

 

[grishaaa]

sorry for delay,im still dont understand how peoples build a wheels,i think need be genius for that..but after long term,i did it!!
by carry all that parts to the local store)and after few weeks a miracle is happen!i already even have a ride a while,and getting few eights on them