How easy is it to upgrade to larger discs?

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gelfy666

Über Member
Location
telford
just wondering if anyone has some advice on fitting larger disc to my Saracen Kili 29er, fitted with 160mm at the moment but id like to increase the size.

so what do i need to buy then?
 

Jody

Stubborn git
New disc and a caliper mount bracket usually.
 
The practical aspects are simple, but it needs some thought

Larger discs add more stress to the frame and that is what you need to consider

Practically
The discs attach to the wheels by bolts, undo the bolts, fit new disc and there you are

The brakes attach by a "mount" all you need is a different sized mount, again remove the old one and replace, realigning brakes to the new discs
 
Location
Loch side.
As above. But why do you want to fit bigger discs. The only reason to fit bigger discs is to deal with heat management problems which are evident as blue heat zones on your smaller discs. If your present discs are not burnt blue, you'll score nothing from larger discs.
 

Drago

Legendary Member
Check that the manufacturer rates the forks for the size you're intending. It likely you'll be able to safely go up a size, but not guaranteed.
 

Profpointy

Legendary Member
The practical aspects are simple, but it needs some thought

Larger discs add more stress to the frame and that is what you need to consider

Practically
The discs attach to the wheels by bolts, undo the bolts, fit new disc and there you are

The brakes attach by a "mount" all you need is a different sized mount, again remove the old one and replace, realigning brakes to the new discs

Is that ^ actually true though? Presumably even small disks will have you over the bars if you overcook it, so you're not going to brake any harder, so stress is still the same maximum value. Larger discs will lose more heat, but that's a different thing. All this is based on my knowledge of physics / engineering, but not knowledge of bike brakes so I could well be wrong
 
Is that ^ actually true though? Presumably even small disks will have you over the bars if you overcook it, so you're not going to brake any harder, so stress is still the same maximum value. Larger discs will lose more heat, but that's a different thing. All this is based on my knowledge of physics / engineering, but not knowledge of bike brakes so I could well be wrong


I alwayss understood that the force applied was a funcyion of the distance from the pivot that the force was applied

Bigger discs mean more distance, hence the torque is greater

The point at which this is applied to the bike is the mounting point on the forks / frame

I remember buying a pair of Rock Shox many years ago and being told tha 160 mm was the maximum disc size
 

Profpointy

Legendary Member
I alwayss understood that the force applied was a funcyion of the distance from the pivot that the force was applied

Bigger discs mean more distance, hence the torque is greater

The point at which this is applied to the bike is the mounting point on the forks / frame

I remember buying a pair of Rock Shox many years ago and being told tha 160 mm was the maximum disc size

Yes, that's perfectly true - but only up the maximum value limited by what that the tyres will handle or which pitches you over the bars. Any more potential torque from the bigger discs is unusable so to speak, and hence cant' damage the bike either. Of course, if the smaller discs can't lock the wheel, or pitch you over bars - then there would indeed be more force from the bigger discs, but even barely adequate rim brakes can pitch you over the bars in the dry if you have the finesse of a gorilla, so I'd assume (rightly or wrongly) that even the smallest discs can do the same. With discs you are able to reach the same force in the wet as well - which I understand to be their big advantage..
 
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gelfy666

gelfy666

Über Member
Location
telford
We've recently got a static in North Wales/Snowdonia and I seem to spend alot of time on decents off the mountains, so I just thought it could be a beneficial upgrade.
 

GilesM

Legendary Member
Location
East Lothian
What make/model of brakes do you currently have, you may find a better brake with the smaller disc will improve things, or even using different pads.
 
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