Hi-Viz doesn't stop punishment passes

[Linford]

I saw an article on this study on the news this evening. It doesn't really tell us anything we don't already know.
A-holes who want to make a very close pass to a cyclist to put a bit of fear into them will do so because they want too, and not because they are not being inattentive.
Link to the study.
http://www.bath.ac.uk/research/news/2013/11/26/overtaking-cyclists/

No **** sherlock !

 

[bianchi1]

It's a shame the study didn't look at any driver behaviour difference during poor light conditions. The study took place only when "Visibility was good, with daylight, no rain and no fog". (Page 10)

It is also striking that all the outfits he chose to ride in are bright colours, not a black jacket in sight.

My guess is that the university ethics committee would never sign off a study where Mr Walker rode around dressed in dark clothing in the fading light as it would be far to dangerous. The results of such a study would be far more interesting however.

 

[Linford]

What they did say though on the program is that high viz did have benefits when negotiating junctions where the rider was in the peripheral vision.

The long and the short is that most drivers see cyclists, but make deliberate choices based on their own estimation of what they feel they need to give them when passing, or cutting across the path of.

I've seen it a few times where a car has cut across my path, or overtaken and then turned left on me because they have underestimated my speed. I notice that when using my super duper CREE light, drivers think I'm a motorcycle, and give me extra consideration.....extending on that, when on the motorbike, I feel I get the same consideration on junctions as if I were driving a car....eg they think I am a bit less predictable, and have the ability to accelerate into their path very quickly without warning, and so hold back and not try and double guess me.

 

[numbnuts]

Shiny red tights work

 

[bianchi1]

There is no need for anyone to do that study specifically. We must have a good couple of decades' worth of data relating to cyclist casualties where it could be seen whether or not wearing hi-viz makes a person less likely to be one than a person wearing black.

The study isn't measuring the instances that you become a casualty. That would be highly unethical!

It seems to be trying to determine drivers attitudes to cyclists (measured by passing distance) using the cyclists perceived experience as the variable. And yet the fact that the test only took part in the (full) daylight and with no cyclists wearing black limits any usefulness of the data.

There would have been a reason that no data was collected/used when it was raining, I wonder why that was, as far as I know people still cycle and drive in the rain?

 

[DWiggy]

I've stopped using a quite (was safe) road due to the same 7.5 tonne scaffolding lorry purposely giving me a super close pass every time they/he sees me. This is down a quiet unlit country road that is straight, I'm in a Hi-Vis with two bright flashy rear lights and a super bright front light!!
Every time they/he does it there are no other vehicles in either direction, they usually pass me doing in excess of 50mph (guess) and the last time they/he pulled back in front of me leaving only 5-10" from my front tyre, shat the life out of me!

You cant educate fecktards, best to keep clear of them if you can!

 

[DWiggy]

[QUOTE 2793267, member: 259"]Have you told the police?[/quote]
I will do but it usually all happens to fast, the vehicle is in a bit of a state and the plate is almost unreadable, and by the time ive gotten over the initial shock he long gone.

 

[bianchi1]

[QUOTE 2793261, member: 45"]Is this the study from several years ago?[/quote]

2013

 

[Linford]

I've stopped using a quite (was safe) road due to the same 7.5 tonne scaffolding lorry purposely giving me a super close pass every time they/he sees me. This is down a quiet unlit country road that is straight, I'm in a Hi-Vis with two bright flashy rear lights and a super bright front light!!
Every time they/he does it there are no other vehicles in either direction, they usually pass me doing in excess of 50mph (guess) and the last time they/he pulled back in front of me leaving only 5-10" from my front tyre, shat the life out of me!

You cant educate fecktards, best to keep clear of them if you can!

About time you got a rear facing HD cam to catch it.

 

[bianchi1]

[QUOTE 2793421, member: 45"]http://www.bath.ac.uk/news/articles/archive/overtaking110906.html[/quote]
Same bloke, different study. Dated 2013 however
it has been revised after peer review.

 

[steveindenmark]

So if 1 or 2% wont give you more space. Does that mean 98% will

In any case I wear my vis vest to give me confidence not just so they can see me ;0)

Steve

 

[Smurfy]

I will do but it usually all happens to fast, the vehicle is in a bit of a state and the plate is almost unreadable, and by the time ive gotten over the initial shock he long gone.

Tell the police anyway. The police get information from many sources, and they may already be aware of this lorry and recognise it from your description. Keep a look out for traffic police parked up, and see if you can have a quick word.

 

[Ern1e]

My Hi-Viz vest did not stop the bus driver pulling out on me today,I did catch up with him two stops later and guess what after I asked you did see me then ? reply well yes you are wearing HI Viz (jaw dropped in total amazment) and I did pull out wide on you ! I was that stunned to say the least called him a stupid noodle brained idiot and next time please wait until I had gone past, then he says go away in a jerky movments (read some where we should try keep the swearing down) and then drove of, now awaiting responce from the local bus company.