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cobra90

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Hi All

I have a W.F Holdsworth bike that im struggling to work out exactly what model it is and therefore price. I’ve gently wiped down the area where i thought there would be a model logo and cant find a frame number anywhere. Any help would be greatly appreciated, here are a few photos.
Please let me know if anyone is interested in buying as it needs to go. Thanks.
 

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raleighnut

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In that state not much, the saddle is probably worth more than the bike if that's in good nick i.e. not cracked around the rivets.
 
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cobra90

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Ok i’ll check. Im not worried if it isnt worth much but a number would help.
Rough price for saddle…?
As for the bike any ideas on model and therefore price?
 

Drago

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Holdworthy era machine. Difficult to say from the pics but id guess early 70's +/- 5, but that could be out. The red dot weinmann's make it nomilder than 67 or so, and likely later.

No front clanger so likely lower down the Holdsworth range.

in very good condition with original paint and good running order probably about £150-£200, but you'll spend half of that or more on new tyres, tubes, chain, brake blocks, cables, etc getting it back up. It's hard to he sure but the paint looks a bit far gone for anyone to get excited over the original finish so I'd say the lower end of that range.

In the state its in there maybe £50 as a project.

Nice bikes and they ride very well, but they and their CB siblings are simply too numerous to be worth much. Someone will want it fairly cheaply and spend the time and cash making a nice riding bike as a labour of love rather than expecting a machine of any great historic interest or significance.

Records for Holdsworth/CB frame numbers are notoriously incomplete and inconsistent, but the best resource is this if you're trying to pin down the age...

https://www.nkilgariff.com/FrameNosTemp.htm

Or you might find a date code on some of the components. Once you know the age you might be able to track down a brochure from the relevant year and thus establish the model, but unless it's got provenance of a famous owner etc then £50 as it stands now is fairly realistic.
 
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cobra90

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Holdworthy era machine. Difficult to say from the pics but id guess early 70's +/- 5.

in very good condition with original paint and good running order probably about £150-£200, but you'll spend half of that or more on new tyres, tubes, chain, brake blocks, cables, etc getting it back up. It's hard to he sure but the paint looks a bit far gone for anyone to get excited over the original finish so I'd say the lower end of that range.

In the state its in there maybe £50 as a project.

Nice bikes and they ride very well, but they and their CB siblings are simply too numerous to be worth much. Someone will want it fairly cheaply and spend the time and cash making a nice riding bike rather than expecting a machine of any great historic interest or significance.

Records for Holdsworth/CB frame numbers are notoriously incomplete and inconsistent, but the best resource is this if you're trying to pain down the age...

https://www.nkilgariff.com/FrameNosTemp.htm

Or you might find a date code on some of the components. Once you know the age you might bw able to track down a brochure from the relevant year and thus establish the model, but unless it's got provenance of a famous owner etc then £50 as it stands now is fairly realistic.

Ok. Thanks for your help much appreciated.
 

rogerzilla

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Frame number will be on a rear dropout. Possibly a Tornado based on the lugs, but the head badge is 60s, I think - early 50s like mine had a more rectangular brass badge.

33938791896_4850f72803_z.jpg 20170411_194943 by rogerzilla, on Flickr

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Build quality can be hit or miss on Holdsworths - I've had two where the fork steerer wasn't in straight, giving very little offset and meaning handling was terribly slow.
 
I think DCLane is not far off the money. Probably OK as a project rebuild, but as a labour of love not for profit. One thing to test is if the stem and seat post are seized as that could make it a very hard job and put people off.
 
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