Help Needed With Rear Axle Assembly

[Drewski]

I changed my tyres yesterday and noticed the rear bearings were grating slightly so thought I'd strip the hub and regrease. I put all the parts in order so I knew how it went then proceeded to knock it all off the workbench! I was up to midnight last night sweeping the garage floor with a magnet to find all the bearings.
Can anyone tell me which order the nuts and spacers go please? Also, the threads on the axle are slightly different at each end. The hub is threaded so I presume the axle is threaded into the hub as far as it will go? If that's the case, which end goes where?

Thanks for any help, I've had a look online but can't find any info on the correct assembly, do bicycles have manuals like motorcycles with exploded diagrams? Here what I have:-

 

[lpretro1]

It is normal when you remove an axle to replace bearings that you only undo the nuts one side - usually the non-drive side then just pull axle out from other side that way you do not end up with this problem. I suspect you will need to put the larger of the two spacers on the longer side of the axle and then the lock nut and tighten them up - and then will be put in axle from the drive side - you need to get it so you end up with an even amount of axle on either side - inevitably you will need to keep adjusting it until it is right

 

[steve50]

You appear to have some bits missing, the tapered nut from each side of the axle is missing, unless they are still in the hub assembly.

 

[Tim Hall]

You appear to have some bits missing, the tapered nut from each side of the axle is missing, unless they are still in the hub assembly.
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From the pic of the wheel it looks like the cone (tapered nut) is still in position. @Drewski, as steve says there should be a cone on each end. Look on the garage floor if they're not both still in the hub, although where you say "the hub is threaded" suggests that both cones have remained in the hub, something I've not seen before. How did you get the ball bearings out? Through the hole the axle passes through I'm guessing. Sheldon has an article about adjustment here which also has a picture showing the order the bits go in.

 

[Drewski]

Thanks all, as Tim says, the threaded nut is still in the hub. I'll have another look for any missing parts. When I started to strip it, I noticed the freewheel "wobbling" as the wheel was spinning......I thought it may be that the axle was bent which is why I removed it completely. However, now I've got it out, the axle looks fine. I'll also remove the top cone and take a pic so you can see where the bearings are.

EDIT: Here's the missing piece...sorry, that was my fault, I had put the bearings and the top cone on the wheel while working out how the rest went, it should have been in the pic of the spacers and nuts. Does this mean everything is there now?




Here what the other side of the hub looks like:-

 

[Tim Hall]

Yes, if you've got two like that, that's all the bits. (The one stuck in the hub will look like that. The disc with Quando stamped on it is a press fit dust/crud shield)

 

[Drewski]

Am I right in thinking that there is the one wheel bearing race that we can see in the above photo of the wheel and another underneath/inside the freewheel? Looks like I need a freewheel remover to get to that one? No sense in regreasing one race and leaving the other I guess.

 

[Tim Hall]

Yes, the other race is inboard of the freewheel. Personally I wouldn't bother removing the freewheel, just clean it out with a bit of rag soaked in white spirit or similar and squidge some grease in using a tactical finger or other implement. This will be a whole lot easier if you remove the stuck cone from the hole in the centre of the freewheel. To do this, screw the axle back in from the non freewheel side and tap gently with a hammer and block of wood.

 

[Drewski]

Ah, that's great....wasn't sure if that cone came out freely or not. There's no noticable wear and the bike in general doesn't seem to have seen much use so I'll just regrease and work out from the pics which nut goes where.
Thanks for the help, much appreciated.

Incidentaly, Quando appear to be one of the cheaper brand of hubs, what advantages do the more expensive ones have?

 

[Drewski]

All done but the gears still wobble.......it's not much, but still,annoying. I may just keep an eye out for another wheel set.

 

[lpretro1]

Freewheels often have float in them like that - its nothing to worry about

 

[fossyant]

Freewheels do usually wobble a bit, especially 'cheaper' ones.