Has anyone gone from pure road to Sportive??

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Dave7

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As per my previous thread I am thinking of changing from road to sportive and wondered.....
Has anyone made the change ?
Did you find the improvement you wanted ?
What was better/worse ? i.e. ride position/trye size/road vibration etc. ?
What did you change from/to ?
Thanks
 

yello

back and brave
I must admit to not knowing what you mean by 'road to sportive'?

Do you mean race focused bike to one of the more comfort orientated, distance bikes?
 
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Dave7

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I must admit to not knowing what you mean by 'road to sportive'?

Do you mean race focused bike to one of the more comfort orientated, distance bikes?

Yes-that's exactly what I mean. To my (very limited) knowledge they are called sportive. I googled that and it comes up. My previous post was asking for recommendations and several people responded but I now realise I dont know how much benefit the cahnge will be........hence this post.
Unfortunately I cant change the heading now in order to make it more obvious.
 

yello

back and brave
To my (very limited) knowledge they are called sportive. I googled that and it comes up.

And you'd be right! There is a breed of bike now referred to as a 'sportive bike'. I just wasn't 100% sure whether you were referring to a bike (as opposed to a sportive event) or not. I didn't know if you wanted to switch from road racing to riding sportives.

To the question, I think a lot depends on how you're feeling now on your bike and what your aims are. You can ride a sportive, an audax or race on anything. If you have a comfortable bike now then I'd look no further.

A 'sportive bike' is purported to be more comfortable for greater distances than a pure race focused bike, due to the differences in frame geometry. And I'm sure they are. Not having one, I couldn't comment. But if comfort is the end game then there are other bikes to look at - the list doesn't end with the current crop of 'sportive bikes'. You can fit wider tyres on a 'race' bike and increase comfort. There are other tweaks you can do too.

As I say, depends on your wants and purpose.
 
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Dave7

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If you have a comfortable bike now then I'd look no further.
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I want to buy myself a 'retirement present' . My present bike is pure road/race style and a reasonable spec' (Shimano Tiagra).
I'm wondering if anyone has made the change and felt the benefit/or been sorry.
 

MacB

Lover of things that come in 3's
I'm afraid the only answer is extensive personal testing and combining that with reading up on geometry and getting a feel for the various contributing factors. There are also perceptions, personal and external, that may need to be overcome.

You could make yourself a list of potential bikes and then turn that into a spreadsheet of geometries coupled with componentry. Then try to ride each bike, with as wide a variety of setups as possible. Try your 'perfect' size in each frame and also try the size up and the size down. Ride them with a range of tyres and tyre pressures at each tyre size they can accomodate. Make notes on every variation re your ride impressions, try them with racks and guards(if they can take them) and without, with luggage and without. Look closely at any variables between frame geometries and try to isolate them for further testing. Head and seat angles, forks offsets, chainstay lengths, BB drops, stiffness and tubing diameters. Then you need to throw frame materials into the mix, try titanium, carbon, alloy, steel, mixes. Oh yeah, try to factor in a wide array of variables around bars, stems, seatposts, saddles, pedals, grips, tape, hoods, levers and gloves.

If you're reasonably thorough, but not overly anal, you should be able to make a fair start with a £100k budget and 3 years full time.

Alternatively :biggrin: you could assume that the manufacturers have done this sort of thing and just try some popular models in various categories.

On a more serious level is this a case of you want to be as quick as you can be but you're not finding the full on race bikes as comfortable as you'd like? So you're trying to get comfort without sacrificing performance?
 

GrumpyGregry

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As per my previous thread I am thinking of changing from road to sportive and wondered.....
Has anyone made the change ?
Did you find the improvement you wanted ?
What was better/worse ? i.e. ride position/trye size/road vibration etc. ?
What did you change from/to ?
Thanks
I tried a Sportive, and an 100km audax on a mate's road bike. Just to see. 23mm tyres, race geometry, a race saddle, thin bar tape, drops that felt like they were round my ankles somewhere. It fitted perfectly but were two of the most uncomfortable rides I've ever had. It is a blast riding it for 50km around the lanes and hills and a pita (amongst other places) at 75+km

I'll stick with my fast tourer/Audax bike from now on. It only takes about 10 minutes to take the mudguards off et voila. More relaxed geometry and a more compliant frame/fork, 28mm tyres, a triple, gel under the tape, a brooks saddle, it is like riding an armchair in comparison with his Trek race bike.
 
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Dave7

Dave7

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On a more serious level is this a case of you want to be as quick as you can be but you're not finding the full on race bikes as comfortable as you'd like? So you're trying to get comfort without sacrificing performance?[/quote]

It's more a case of...I'm going to buy myself a present and trying to get a 'handle' what others feel re' road/sportive. I will obviously try some out but would like the opinion of someone who has done it for real.
 

merida100

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Hi have just got a merida ride lite 93 and only done a few miles but the ride is so much more relaxed and even on the drops its nice and comfortable as intend to use for work and long rides
 
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Dave7

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Hi have just got a merida ride lite 93 and only done a few miles but the ride is so much more relaxed and even on the drops its nice and comfortable as intend to use for work and long rides
Thats a nice looking bike!
The comments are very helpful-thanks
Merida is yet another make I have never heard of.......chosing one is a mine field.
 

yello

back and brave
chosing one is a mine field.

Well, yes and no.

Imho, the thing is not to let yourself be overwhelmed by the choice because I do believe that there really is no such thing as a lemon. That is, pretty much any bike you buy will be a good bike (at a price point that is, I'm excluding Argos style budget bikes).

Again imo, you can quickly whittle down your possibles to a short list and pick any bike from that short list based on other factors like which bike shop you prefer, what deal you can get (extras etc), colour etc etc etc.

I think that particularly applies to someone new to cycling when they don't really know what they want. Riding reviews about frame nervousity (or whatever terms are used) are pretty much meaningless until you're aware of your own likes and dislikes, not to mention preferences.
 
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