My eldest is 12 on thursday. I have bought him a Garmin 50 watch for christmas which is essentially for running and he can download the data to the computer but can also be used for cycling. I collected him from his dad's to take him to play football and was proudly shown a pedometer watch which my ex's partner has bought him for his birthday. I am majorly hacked off, mine is a much better specimen and I'm going to have to return it. I know he would love the ability to transfer info. to the computer (he likes league tables/charts and things) and I thought I was onto a winner. Now I need to re-think, was trying desperately to move away from console games, football kit, trainers - ie the usual. bah humbug