Grande Boucle/Giro del Trentino/Zeeuwsche Eilanden 2009

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I know there is already a Grande Boucle 2009 thread but it is a little unwieldly and since the Giro del Trentino and Zeeuwsche Eilanden start on the same day as the Boucle (tomorrow) I thought it would make sense to have a new thread for all three.

So the Grande Boucle is a disappointment this year at only four stages - hardly a Tour de France - although the organisers seem to have had their hands tied a bit after being let down by the British (the race was meant to start over here but Britain pulled out late).

Stage one is a largely flat individual time trial of 18.3km in and around Bressuire. That is followed by a 62.5km stage the next day from Bressuire to Niort where one fourth-category climb is the only bump of note. After a bloody enormous transfer the next stage runs from Hagetmau to Pau over 92.7km, where three fourth-category climbs should not spoil another day for the sprinters. The fourth and final day should decide the race, taking in two first-category, two third-category and two fourth-category climbs en route from Irún in the Spanish Basque Country to Anglet in the French Basque Country. Among the climbs is the Jaizkibel, famous for its annual use in the men's Clásica de San Sebastián.

The start list includes defending champion Christiane Soeder for Cervélo with a strong team around her - including Emma Pooley, although there are also reports that she is down for the Giro del Trentino, and she can't be doing both so we shall see. Marianne Vos is riding for DSB and she will probably never have a better chance to win a Grande Boucle than this year owing to the fairly tame parcours. Other than that, other GC threats will most likely come from within the Cervélo team - Pooley (if she is riding) and Sarah Düster. Sprints should be a bit more competitive, with Vos, Giorgia Bronzini (Safi), Kirsten Wild (Cervelo), Fanny Riberot (Lointek), Hanna Amend (Charlottenburg Berlin) and Simona Frapporti (Chirio).

The Giro del Trentino should have a stellar line-up which will include Fabiana Luperini for Selle Italia, Claudia Haüsler (and possibly Emma Pooley depending on whether she's here or in France) for Cervélo, Judith Arndt for Columbia, Regina Schleicher for Nürnberger, Diana Ziliute for Safi, Tatiana Guderzo for Michela Fanini and Nicole Cooke for Vision 1. It is only two stages this year - the first pretty much flat, the second a day for the climbers with a mountain-top finish at Faedo (6.5km at 7.7%). This will be a great chance for Haüsler and Luperini to go head-to-head before the Giro.

Meanwhile in the Netherlands, the Zeeuwsche Eilanden starts with a 7.1km individual time trial, and then has two long flat stages. The line-up is of excellent quality, exemplified by Columbia who with Teutenberg, Fahlin and van Dijk it is hard to see past in the sprints. DSB have brought along Adrie Visser, while Susanne Ljungskog, Trine Schmidt, Loes Gunnewijk, Mirjam Melchers and Loes Markerink attend for Flexpoint. Sara Mustonen heads up the Swedish national team, and Lizzie Armitstead will be present for Lotto along with Rochelle Gilmore - Gilmore ought to be the de facto leader of the team, but Armitstead picked up her first win of the road season the other day in the Netherlands. Other major names include Andrea Bosman and Chantal Blaak (Leontien.nl) Nathalie van Gogh (Swaboladies), Latoya Brulée (Red Sun), Claudia Witteveen (Restore Cycling), Sissy van Alebeek (Ton van Bemmelen), Tanja Hennes (Nutrixxion Lady), Suzanne de Goede and Eva Lutz (Nürnberger) and Kelly Druyts (Belgium national team).

Also of note is the extraordinarily high number of Brits who will be at the Dutch race. They are as follows: Lizzie Armitstead (Lotto), Emma Trott, Sara Cramoysan, Nikki Harris and Kate Cullen (Movingladies), Pippa Handley (Tubanters), Alice Monger-Godfrey (De Sprinters Malderen) and Alex Greenfield, Lucy Martin, Katie Colclough, Ella Sadler-Andrews, Hannah Mayho, Anna Blyth, Corrine Hall and Sarah Reynolds (British national team). Fifteen Brits!
 

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Thanks for the info skip. It will be interesting to see how Emma goes in the TT. Soeder beat her in the Magli Pasche, but Emma was coming back after the fall in the Fleche. Hopefully Emma can win this time.
 
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I wish the Giro del Trentino website would update their start list from last year so that we could know which race Pooley is actually riding. The truth is if her condition is still good after Montréal then she would have a good chance in either - particularly Trentino, I feel. But if she is riding the Boucle then a solid TT performance could keep her in touch (I'd be surprised if she beats Soeder although it isn't impossible) and as a team mate of Soeder's she might be told to hop up the road on the final day to get the other teams working. Soeder won't be able to complain, she attacked her own team mate Karin Thürig to win on the final day of last year's race even though Thürig's lead was safe so I am sure she'll understand ;)

I forgot as well that the Australian Chloe Hosking will be riding in the Zeeuwsche Eilanden. She is having an amazing season.
 
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The first stage of Trentino has been won by Regina Schleicher ahead of Nicole Cooke and Alessandra D'Ettorre. It looks like the rolling finish to the stage upset the hopes of a few sprinters. I am impressed that Cooke managed to finish ahead of D'Ettorre.
 
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Skip Madness said:
If Pooley is riding the Boucle then a solid TT performance could keep her in touch (I'd be surprised if she beats Soeder although it isn't impossible)
Well I (thankfully) got that wrong - Emma Pooley has won today's Grande Boucle opening time trial with an average speed of 43.6km/h, putting Marianne Vos into second at 24 seconds with Christiane Soeder third at 39 seconds.

I don't know what time bonuses are on offer for sprints but hopefully Kirsten Wild can stop Vos from pulling back that time on the next two flat stages. If Pooley is still leading come Sunday morning she will be odds-on for the victory.
 

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Well done Skip on getting those results. Pooley's win is superb. what was the parcours like ? In a bigger, high quality field it would be hard for Pooley to hold onto Vos, but in this case Cervelo should be able to chase down Vos every time. Pooley should be able to do it off this fine win. Cooke also did well to get that 2nd. Schleicher is a fine sprinter as Madrid proved. Someday somebody will write up that last day of the Boucle last year. It was nothign about Soeder attacking Thurig, and Thurig did lose the lead that day. It was all about Seoder and Thurig chasing after Cooke who 3 times broke away to try and win the race. Thurig was dropped by Soeder each time in the chase. No attack, just could not hold Soeder, as she went after Cooke. Finally came together again towards the top of Sestrier before a final flurry going into the finish.

What is it with that Trentino site ! Still not updated !
 
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Linda Villumsen has taken a not-entirely-surprising win in the 7km individual time trial in the Zeeuwsche Eilanden ahead of Loes Gunnewijk and Charlotte Becker. Nikki Harris was the best-placed Brit, coming in tenth, 23 seconds down.
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Pooley's win is superb. what was the parcours like ?
The first half was mostly slightly downhill, but it rolled upwards towards the end.
In a bigger, high quality field it would be hard for Pooley to hold onto Vos, but in this case Cervelo should be able to chase down Vos every time. Pooley should be able to do it off this fine win.
Yes, that's my thinking. In terms of Vos escaping, Cervélo have the engine to follow her every step of the way. That's why I am more concerned about time bonuses, although I haven't been able to find out how much they are worth. If it's 10-6-4 for 1st-2nd-3rd (which I am pretty sure it was last year) then three stage wins for Vos could snatch it. I see it as unlikely that Vos would win the final stage, but the climbs aren't like those of previous years where climbers like Pooley could have guaranteed dropping her. If Cervélo let Vos do the attacking and tell Pooley to just stick with her it should be fine - send Soeder or Düster on late to counter-attack to try to nullify the bonuses.

Of course a stage win or two over the next two days for Kirsten Wild or Giorgia Bronzini, who are both in excellent condition, would tip it even more heavily Cervélo's way.
Someday somebody will write up that last day of the Boucle last year. It was nothign about Soeder attacking Thurig, and Thurig did lose the lead that day. It was all about Seoder and Thurig chasing after Cooke who 3 times broke away to try and win the race. Thurig was dropped by Soeder each time in the chase. No attack, just could not hold Soeder, as she went after Cooke. Finally came together again towards the top of Sestrier before a final flurry going into the finish.
Yeah, Soeder had the right to go for it. But I seem to recall she ended up with a fair old gap over Cooke, enough that if she had waited up a little at the end she would still have had the stage and Thürig would have had the overall. Of course, if she was able to win then you can't argue with the victory going to the strongest and most deserving rider (which Soeder undoubtedly was), but there was (eventually untrue) talk at the time that it could be Thürig's last season, so it can't have been much fun having the first and probably only grand tour GC win of your career foiled like that. It was fair game as you say, though.
 
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Sorry to keep bumping my own thread, but you can see highlights of the first stage in Trentino here. (You'll have to watch a few bike-related adverts first) Edit: I have created a YouTube account and uploaded it here.

Nicole Cooke was briefly interviewed afterwards:

Interviewer: Tomorrow is the principal stage of this Giro with the climb to Faedo.
Nicole Cooke: Yes... we will see the strongest riders showing.
Interviewer: And how is your condition?
Nicole Cooke: Quite good, not at my maximum. I am aiming to be in my best form for the Worlds in September, but now with two victories last week and a second place today, I am already going pretty well.
 

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Thanks for the translation Skip and thanks for posting the link. A good finish for Cooke.

It is frustrating trying to get information on the races, not easy but then thigns are probably stretched pretty tight on the organisation front there is not much spare for getting the info out onto the WWW.

Looking forward to your next bulletin!
 
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Ooooh... power struggle in the Grande Boucle!

Today's stage, although only containing fourth-category climbs, was constantly rolling with small uphills and downhills and an attack comprising Christiane Soeder, Tina Liebig, Svetlana Pauliukaite and Lina-Kristin Schink got away with 20km to go. An according increase in pace from the chasing peloton put Giorgia Bronzini into difficulty. The appearance of a fourth-category climb saw Soeder pull away from her fellow escapees and solo to victory, while 37 seconds later Kirsten Wild took the sprint for second ahead of Marianne Vos. Emma Pooley's group (the main bunch) officially came in a further three seconds down. The result is that Soeder snatches the lead from her team-mate Pooley - who is now second at 15 seconds. Looking at Sunday's stage I wonder if Pooley will comport herself as the faithful domestique or if we will see the roles reversed.

It was a better day for Britain in Italy at the Trentino - Nicole Cooke was one of five riders who attacked close to the top of the penultimate climb after her Vision 1 team had done much of the work all day. With her in the break was her team-mate Vicki Whitelaw, who was the first of the five to succumb on the final climb. Kim Anderson from Columbia was the next of the quintet to be dropped three kilometres from the top, and Svetlana Bubnenkova followed. The duel for the stage and overall victory was decided 300 metres from the finish when a final acceleration from Cooke put paid to Carla Ryan's hopes for Cervélo. It was a sensational ride by all of the first four finishers - they finished the descent of the penultimate climb with little more than a minute's advantage over the chasing group which included Fabiana Luperini, Edita Pucinskaite, Claudia Haüsler, Judith Arndt and Mara Abbott, but eventually the fifth-placed finisher was Arndt, almost five-and-a-half minutes down. It is interesting that by the finish Haüsler, Pucinskaite and Abbott had all put time into last year's Giro d'Italia (and Giro del Trentino) winner Luperini. The finishing GC is much as the finishing order of today's stage - Nicole Cooke wins the stage and the race from Carla Ryan with Svetlana Bubnenkova in third. Cooke is crazy not to be going to the Giro...

At the Zeeuwsche Eilanden, Suzanne Goede took today's stage in a sprint from Ina Teutenberg and Chloe Hosking. Lizzie Armitstead scored a respectable seventh-placed finish.
 

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Skip, it all sounds great. Sunday's stage in the Boucle could be great or it could be very frustrating for Pooley. On this stage in 2007
http://video.google.fr/videoplay?docid=8359118335936283417
Pooley rode away from Cooke and Dopman on the Tourmalet only to be caught and passed by Dopman and caught by Cooke. Cooke did not drop Pooley but rather led her to the next climb and then Cooke and Pooley then climbed back up to Dopman on the final climb. Cooke gave Dopman the stage at the end. I think at various times on that final stage Cooke, Pooley Dopman and then finally Cooke again, all held Yellow on the road. I am not sure any men's race can quite live up to that !

Cooke's ride at Trentino sounds like she is coming right back to form. That is some serious time to put into a very high quality field. Arndt just won the stage race in Spain !
Once again Skip, thanks for bringing that to us.
 
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Found a link to some brief Trentino highlights, roughly two-thirds of the way into this video (it could take a while to load that far). Edit: I have uploaded it to YouTube, here.

Cooke was interviewed again afterwards:
Nicole Cooke said:
It was beautiful team work today. We really went for it on the descent of the climb. We worked to get my team-mates to catch the four ahead of us. Once in the group of five we shared the work very well, especially my team-mate Vicki Whitelaw, who sacrificed herself for me. She worked incredibly hard, and without her I don't know if it would have been possible to win like I did today.

Great link to that video ^^^ from 2007, thanks for that.

Edit: Cycling Weekly's website is currently saying that Cooke's victory today, "takes the overall lead." No, it means she has won - the race is over. If people thought we were exaggerating about shite media coverage...
 

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Skip - well done for finding that (24.45 to 26.55). But I enjoyed watching all the Trentino news not that I could understand much but a few of the screens behind and some thug thumping somebody on video cam and then making off with the box of goodies was interesting !
Seeing the interplay between Cooke and Dopman (the partner of the team manager) again, and then thinking how frustrating it must be for Pooley tonight _ I was leading and now I am not, and then seeing Cooke's hard fought victory, reminds me that women's cycling does have the romanticism and heroicism of the men's scene of years ago. A fascinating tale in 2009, something more akin to the 1940's or 1950's.
 
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Andrea Bosman has taken the third and final stage of the Zeeuwsche Eilanden, with Nikki Harris in second and Chantal Beltman coming third. Ina Teutenberg therefore takes the GC, while Nikki Harris (who it appears has joined Flexpoint mid-season) managed a very creditable fifth overall.
 
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What a crazy race this Grande Boucle is turning into.

On another stage made for the sprinters, Emma Pooley has taken the stage victory and recaptured the race lead. She was one of several riders to try attacking early in the stage, and with a second attempt later on got away with Elena Berlato and Tina Liebig. Marieke van Wanroij, Kirsten Wild and Giorgia Bronzini managed to get across to them. Liebig attacked again with five kilometres to go, but she was reeled in and Pooley countered. Pooley made it to the line first, twenty seconds ahead of Giorgia Bronzini, followed by Kirsten Wild.

Pooley's lead on GC is 28 seconds from Christiane Soeder, and now 49 seconds to Marianne Vos. Vos leads the young rider and hot spots classifications, Wild the points and Berlato the mountains. It's all on tomorrow now.
 
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