Gitane vs Faggin

[woodbutcher]

Just got back from the ride l normally do on the Gitane but tried out the Faggin today on the same route, hot sun and a bit of a headwind in places.......4mins faster than my best time on the Gitane !
Faggin rules

 

[biggs682]

Just got back from the ride l normally do on the Gitane but tried out the Faggin today on the same route, hot sun and a bit of a headwind in places.......4mins faster than my best time on the Gitane !
Faggin rules

now go and try both bike in the opposite direction and take the average for each bike and then see which one is quickest

 

[HertzvanRental]

I thought this was a thread about French cigarettes!

 

[woodbutcher]

now go and try both bike in the opposite direction and take the average for each bike and then see which one is quickest

Do you mind if l leave that until tomorrow l'm having a cup of tea in the afternoon sunshine at the moment

 

[mikeymustard]

I thought this was a thread about French cigarettes!

is that why the Gitane is slower, cos of being higher tar?

 

[woodbutcher]

I thought this was a thread about French cigarettes!

is that why the Gitane is slower, cos of being higher tar?

Yep its a drag !

 

[mikeymustard]

Yep its a drag !

But seriously though, why is the Faggin quicker do you think?
I put Schwalbe Duranos on the Genesis for the winter and I've felt like I've been cycling through treacle ever since (though I've not had a puncture). I've got Luganos (schwalbe's cheapest) on the Raleigh, and they feel light and responsive even with fairly low pressures. And yet... according to the rolling resistance website (now that's a man who should get out more) they're miles worse, especially at the pressures I tend to run them!

 

[biggs682]

But seriously though, why is the Faggin quicker do you think?
I put Schwalbe Duranos on the Genesis for the winter and I've felt like I've been cycling through treacle ever since (though I've not had a puncture). I've got Luganos (schwalbe's cheapest) on the Raleigh, and they feel light and responsive even with fairly low pressures. And yet... according to the rolling resistance website (now that's a man who should get out more) they're miles worse, especially at the pressures I tend to run them!

i try and just use Rubino's on all bikes with either 23 - 25mm tyres that way if there is a big difference i can normally rule tyres out as a factor

 

[mikeymustard]

Good idea, new bike placebo can be quite a factor. I had lithions on the Genesis previously and they felt nice but I had 3 punctures in a week so lost confidence in them a bit

 

[woodbutcher]

Here we go then with a few stats. The Faggin is 55cmx55cm , wheel base 100cm. 170mm crank with Michelin Tracer tyres 700x20 in surprisingly good condition.
The Gitane is 53x53cm, wheelbase 100cm. 170mm crank with Michelin BIB TS 20 tyres 700x20. in unsurprisingly a bit knackered condition.
I have bought some cheap Schwable Luganos 700x23 to replace them but haven't got round to fitting them yet.
So apart from frame size ( is it that critical ?) not much difference except maybe the feel good factor !