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ethan5

New Member
Hi,
Crud racers look sleak and slim but some say they don't keep out all the crud or dump it on the drivetrain; they suggest full mudguards but what would be the best choice, I've got 23mm tyres on my road bike? I'm still leaning towards Crud MkIIs, just thinking. Ta.
 

PaulSecteur

No longer a Specialized fanboy
Hi,

The cruds are designed for bikes that dont really have the space, clearences ubder the brakes or eyelets for traditional mudgaurds. As such, they are much better than nothing, but if you have the fittings and clearences on your bike you are best to take advantage and get proper full guards.

Most of the problems reported with the Cruds are with 25 mm tyres, most people seem to say there are no issues if you have 23mm tyres, so you should be ok.

What bike do you have?
 
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ethan5

New Member
An Orbea Larrau, which I got off ebay and I have replaced the cassette, chain and c/rings (Once u change 1, I've realised, it all has to go!) so I'm just getting it ready for the new year where I hope to do at least 10 miles/day for fitness. Thanks for your comments.
Hi,

The cruds are designed for bikes that dont really have the space, clearences ubder the brakes or eyelets for traditional mudgaurds. As such, they are much better than nothing, but if you have the fittings and clearences on your bike you are best to take advantage and get proper full guards.

Most of the problems reported with the Cruds are with 25 mm tyres, most people seem to say there are no issues if you have 23mm tyres, so you should be ok.

What bike do you have?
 
There is probably an answer by SKS.

http://www.sks-germa...8984faff0cb5688

BW


Chromoplastics are excellent if your bike has the fixings and you are not too fussed about image.
Only MAMILS are fussed about their image when it comes to mudguards. Those of us who were cycling before it became a middle managment fad and will still be here after they have moved onto something else just want to keep our arses dry in winter.
 

Moodyman

Legendary Member
Only MAMILS are fussed about their image when it comes to mudguards. Those of us who were cycling before it became a middle managment fad and will still be here after they have moved onto something else just want to keep our arses dry in winter.

I agree with you Clint.
 

ColinJ

Puzzle game procrastinator!
I'm a fan of the Roadracers, especially since I upgraded to the Mk2 version, but as mentioned above - they are intended for racing bikes that you can't fit conventional guards on. If you can fit SKS (or the like) then that is the obvious thing to do. 
 

fossyant

Ride It Like You Stole It!
Location
South Manchester
If it's a bike you use every day, in all weathers then fit guards. If you have room; SKS. I've had a set on my Fixed since I got the bike in May 09 and they look like being there for years. Quality kit. Cruds if not enough clearance !

Yes, guards on a fixed. Any 'fixie' rider will get scalped if they take the wee..wee....... :thumbsup:
 

Wobblers

Euthermic
Location
Minkowski Space
As everyone else has said, SKS chromoplastics are pretty much ideal if you have the clearance and the eyelets (near the dropouts) for them. I use them and they keep most of the road muck off both me and the bike. If you can't fit them, the Cruds also have a good reputation, though I've not used them myself.
 

slowmotion

Quite dreadful
Location
lost somewhere
The instructions for fitting the Chromoplastics are woefully inadequate. You have to cut the stays to size, and the stuff about end-caps is laughable. Struggle away, and you get sorted eventually for wet weather riding.
Hours of fettling fun, NOT!
There is probably a YouTube clip to tell you how to put them on, but that is a guess.
 

MGBLemonrider

Active Member
Location
Stevenage, Herts
Dawes 400 Giro 700c initialy 23s but now on Marathon Plus 25s. Commute of 11 miles each way.

I started off with the Chromoplastics but they quickly split across between the bridge and the first stay on the rear. So changed to the Bluemels, I had to use some of the fittings from the Chromoplastics to get it to grip the bridge behind the bottom bracket. The front also started to split in the same way so the Bluemel was also put on the front, I've also had the adjustable clip brake at the rear bridge.

I don't know if it was how I'd fitted them and either had too much tension in them or it's purely down to the really harsh ride across rubbish road surfaces.

I'm now happy with the fit and when the summer comes I won't be taking them off. It's surprising on now much spray they keep of your feet from the wet roads. I'm sold on the benefit of full mudguards. Not looking for out right speed slowly been making it slower by fitting heavier tyres; dynohub and guards.LOL

Yes the instructions are basic, and I didn't bother with the cosmetic stay end caps. I did need to cut to length to avoid toe overlap on the front and cosmetically on the back.
 

ColinJ

Puzzle game procrastinator!
I didn't bother with the cosmetic stay end caps. 
They are not just cosmetic - they should also prevent the stays getting inserted into you or somebody else in a crash!

Same thing with handlebar plugs - people have been killed or horribly injured by being 'cored' by the ends of their bars.

And ditto with the little alloy caps on the ends of brake and gear cables. I didn't bother and ended up stabbing my leg with a cable - it hurt! (They also stop the cables fraying, of course.)
 

buddha

Veteran
My Bluemels split a few years ago under the rear stay arch. I just overlapped and fixed them together again with superglue and a screw - as I'm tight :rolleyes:

Apart from the stripes/look and the "clip", is there a difference between the Chromoplastics and Bluemels?
 

MGBLemonrider

Active Member
Location
Stevenage, Herts
They are not just cosmetic - they should also prevent the stays getting inserted into you or somebody else in a crash!

Okay I'll take a hit on that one. I don't know how much difference they'd actual make in preventing a puncture wound as you describe. I'll not volunteer as a test subject.

I've cut my fronts very close so there's none protruding so I should be safe(ish). Now that you've pointed this out I'll have to do the rears also, just in case I get rear ended on a group ride, and put the covers on all round.


My Bluemels split a few years ago under the rear stay arch. I just overlapped and fixed them together again with superglue and a screw - as I'm tight :rolleyes:

Apart from the stripes/look and the "clip", is there a difference between the Chromoplastics and Bluemels?

The Bluemels have the quick release front stay safety system in case something gets caught and dragged around. The Chromoplastics were a squarer cross section. I don't know if they're actually made differently
 
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