Fraud Landis to appeal

[andy_wrx]

The man just won't give up
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/other_sports/cycling/7038746.stm

How many 'final appeals' does it take ?

 

[bonj2]

I don't see how you can be guilty of taking a drug that's naturally occurring in the body anyway. How can they set a maximum legal limit when the amount in your body might be more than that anyway? What's he supposed to do, drain some off?

 

[Smeggers]

I don't see how you can be guilty of taking a drug that's naturally occurring in the body anyway. How can they set a maximum legal limit when the amount in your body might be more than that anyway? What's he supposed to do, drain some off?

the whole basis for his guilt is that they found SYNTHETIC testosterone in him.

 

[bonj2]

the whole basis for his guilt is that they found SYNTHETIC testosterone in him.

Hmmm... I don't see how they know it's synthetic, if it's from his body and it's the same substance.

 

[Tim Bennet.]

You would have thought a friend would have told him to save his money. He's probably being egged on by lawyers telling him things like 'it's the principle that matters' or 'your honour is at stake'.

But they're not the ones who will end up as, not only a discredited cheat, but a stony broke one to boot.

 

[bonj2]

At the end of the day, if he didn't take drugs, then he will already know in his heart of hearts that HE won the tour and if that's the case then the fact they stripped him of his title shouldn't matter (too much).

 

[Smeggers]

Hmmm... I don't see how they know it's synthetic, if it's from his body and it's the same substance.

Dunno - ask a biochemist

Not being a biochemist myself, I'm not going to argue.

 

[romeo]

There was plenty of insider talk about him being a big fan of 'supplements' way before this case. It wasnt really a surprise. btw it wasnt from his body and it wasnt the same substance. as mentioned up there it was a synthetic form of testosterone.

 

[Abitrary]

And on that note it's up the wooden staircase for me

night peeps

 

[Jonathan M]

Hmmm... I don't see how they know it's synthetic, if it's from his body and it's the same substance.

Pretty much any naturally occuring substance can be produced - and it is then synthetic. Becuase it isn't made within the body, it will have a different chemical constitution, even though it does a similar job within the body. Blood testing can therefore differentiate between endogenous & exogenous substances. Synthetic insulin can be open to sports abuse, and I have a feeling that there are tests available to differentiate between natural & synthetic insulin - I seem to recall this being used in the case against Beverley Allit in the early 1990's, as she used insulin to cause collapse in some of the infants she killed, and it was on subsequent review of blood tests that the insulin was detected.

Besides, biochemically the body will have a range of normal values, so grossly raised levels of any endogenous substance needs close examination because it usually indicates a further medical problem.

 

[andy_wrx]

Pereiro has now officially been given the yellow
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/other_sports/cycling/7046045.stm

 

[Tetedelacourse]

lol, for a split second I thought you meant they've sent Landis' piss to Pereiro for further analysis!

 

[andy_wrx]

He might look at it to see if it's the same as his (allegedly...)

 

[Leilei]

If the CAS overturn the ASADA findings, what happens to the Yellow jersey?

 

[Steve Austin]

they'll award it to Floyd still but change it to this one