'Foreign' plate HGVs.

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simongt

Guru
Location
Norwich
Yesterday, Road CC reported of a very near miss between a cyclist and an HGV. Despite the cyclist registering her video footage of the incident, the peelers said they couldn't take any action because the HGV in question was Dutch registered and tracing it would be extremely difficult.
Wonder if that would have been their response if she had been seriously injured or worse, killed - ? :dry:
 

Drago

Legendary Member
If she'd been killed he'd have been arrested at the scene and likely RIC'd for trial, neither of which are options for most other mmotoring offences.
 

Drago

Legendary Member
If someone had been killed, and assuming a witness/CCTV or dashcam was able to identify the vehicle, it wouldn't get out of the country.

If there were no evidence that identified the vehicle then like as not the driver would probably never be caught, the same as any other crime where there is no evidence to identify the suspect. In that regard his status as a foreign driver is irrelevant.

In the case of the person in the near miss the police have done nothing wrong, and their response is pragmatic as regards the realities of the law and practicalities prosecuting someone from overseas.

For death by and drink drive offences there are powers of arrest and, more importantly, powers for remand to ensure the suspect remains available for court. For lesser offences (not to denigrate the impact on the victim, that is simply how the justice system regards it) that is not possible, so even if he could be stopped a mile up the road he would have to be summonsed to court at a future date and the odds of him appearing are exactly zero. They never do. I wouldn't in their shoes.

Tracing the vehicle once overseas is difficult and resource intensive at best, impossible at worst, and as such can only be justified for serious crimes. And even if they did somehow trace him and Summons him he ain't going to appear, and there's nothing can be done.

It's the system. It sucks. Direct your ire at your elected representatives and not at the poor schmoes who are saddled with working it.

But these are what we call 20p questions. What it this, what if that? It's hypothetical. We know what happened, and I've explained the reasons behind thar.
 
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Juan Kog

permanently grumpy
Some of the foreign registered and non UK company trucks we see on our roads will have UK drivers .
My BiL a now retired HGV driver worked one contract that involved taking over a left hand drive French company and registration truck at a transport depot in Peterborough. It had come from Scotland with a Scottish driver . He then drove to a French transport depot, trailer swop and return to Peterborough and handover to a Scottish driver .
 

DRM

Guru
Location
West Yorks
Don't forget that ALL EU trailers, be it HGV, Caravan, or normal trailer with brakes/capacity over 750kg have to be registered in it's own country, and display it's own registration plate, so if you are ever in an incident with an EU registered towing vehicle get the details & reg number of the tractor unit, van or car doing the towing, not the trailer, you can see any number of combinations of trucks from one country hauling trailers from another, that's the main reason it's difficult to trace them, unlike in the UK where the trailer has to have the tow vehicles reg number displayed
 
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