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Muddyfox
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- Blackdown Hills Devon
I cant believe no one has thought of this before ?
Well Done Lukes Dad .. what a brilliant idea
Muddyfox
Well Done Lukes Dad .. what a brilliant idea
Muddyfox
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frank9755
Cyclist
- Location
- West London
Yes, best not to fragment the forum too much or it makes it harder to find things!
slowmotion
Quite dreadful
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- lost somewhere
I think it falls into the "informal" category in many ways. A special section might make it lose its non-exclusive appeal to newcomers such as myself.
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lukesdad
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Fair enough, but be aware of the fact because of the dominance of rides in london and the SE of which the frnttc is by far the most popular ( not surprising as a large proportion of riders live there ), a lot of informal rides in other parts of the country are being arranged by PM s. Im guessing the reason for this is down to the above. When rides have been arranged in the past often the first response is " Don t pick that date it clashes with a fnrttc " when in fact the poster has no intention af attending anyway. This puts people off IMO of organising rides especially first time organisers, and I believe this is to be to the detrement of the forum.
Its great to see the frnttc going nationwide, and im sure the rides themselves are informal and great fun, I just think they need their own space on the boards as they are so popular. This would also give smaller rides more prominence within the rides section and, may encourage more would be organisers.
LD
I arrange rides by e-mail (I'm rubbish at the PM thing). I've always arranged rides by e-mail, and I go on other people's rides that are arranged by e-mail. (Actually most of the arranging for the FNRttC is done by e-mail, but that's a different thing).
Right now it's a slow time of year, and the FNRttC has popped it's head up because I've had to plan ahead. By late March it will be just one among many, and, if anything, the Sunday London Rides will be the most-frequently contributed-to-thread followed by track outings to Manchester.
As for the clashing thing - I think that's a bit silly. I arrange an FNRttC every year to clash with the Dunwich Dynamo (although some maniacs do both). I reckon that there are people who don't fancy the Dynamo, but might want to go on something a tad more 'Genteel'. The Genteel ride is never going to be as big as the Dynamo, but it's got a character of its own, and, while a lot of the FNRttC regulars make a date to go to Suffolk, the people who come along on the Genteel ride seem to enjoy it.
I accept that it would probably be a bit silly to arrange a night ride from (say) London Bridge to (say) Eastbourne on the night we were going to Brighton, but the LFGSS night rides seem to be a great success using pretty much the same routes as we use.
In the end it's Shaun's call, and I'm happy with whatever he decides, but I think you're seeing a problem where there isn't one.
I arrange rides by e-mail (I'm rubbish at the PM thing). I've always arranged rides by e-mail, and I go on other people's rides that are arranged by e-mail. (Actually most of the arranging for the FNRttC is done by e-mail, but that's a different thing).
Right now it's a slow time of year, and the FNRttC has popped it's head up because I've had to plan ahead. By late March it will be just one among many, and, if anything, the Sunday London Rides will be the most-frequently contributed-to-thread followed by track outings to Manchester.
As for the clashing thing - I think that's a bit silly. I arrange an FNRttC every year to clash with the Dunwich Dynamo (although some maniacs do both). I reckon that there are people who don't fancy the Dynamo, but might want to go on something a tad more 'Genteel'. The Genteel ride is never going to be as big as the Dynamo, but it's got a character of its own, and, while a lot of the FNRttC regulars make a date to go to Suffolk, the people who come along on the Genteel ride seem to enjoy it.
I accept that it would probably be a bit silly to arrange a night ride from (say) London Bridge to (say) Eastbourne on the night we were going to Brighton, but the LFGSS night rides seem to be a great success using pretty much the same routes as we use.
In the end it's Shaun's call, and I'm happy with whatever he decides, but I think you're seeing a problem where there isn't one.
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lukesdad
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Maybe I havn t put my point across very well. The london ride is a good example of what Im getting at. A lot of contributions, but its contained in one thread. With the frnttc it can be many and go on for a while with pre and after ride banter, I have no problem with this as such, other than it can at times seem to dominate the board, and deter non particpents of the rides from visiting it. Smaller events getting missed, of course its up to these people to check for rides they may be interested in, but it can be a switch off moment if, the first thing you are greeted by is 3 fnrttc threads.
I take your point about the time of year.
As for clashing,Ive allways tried to arrange things away from your dates, but i think you ve missed my point. Your examples are well suscribed to events, Im talking about the smaller rides organised within the forum.
Anyway, it is up to Shaun as you say. Thats enough from me at the moment, but it would be nice to hear from some would be organisers as to what they think.
I take your point about the time of year.
As for clashing,Ive allways tried to arrange things away from your dates, but i think you ve missed my point. Your examples are well suscribed to events, Im talking about the smaller rides organised within the forum.
Anyway, it is up to Shaun as you say. Thats enough from me at the moment, but it would be nice to hear from some would be organisers as to what they think.
PpPete
Legendary Member
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- Chandler's Ford
I know I agreed with LD when this was raised in the Chat room, but - I've just counted: 9 threads are FNRttC or somewhat "london-centric" ( in other words the same crowd who are often seen on FNRttC) out of a total of 26 on the first page.
Given the population density around the capital city I don't think that's disproportionate.
As someone who is thinking of organising a small-scale event (shameless plug) - I wouldnt wan't the hassle of putting together a huge thing like FNRttC or even LD's "Dirty Weekend" - I'm not over concerned either way. As people comment and my plans develop there will be posts - and the thread thus "bumped" up among the FNRttC stuff quite adequately.
One thind I have always found odd.... the boundaries between what goes in Informal rides and what goes in Road,Audax, Sportive are sometimes not obvious - and yet one goes in "Bikes & Cycling" and the other in "Community". For example IOW Randonee... last year it was in "Informal Rides", this year in t'other one (I know - I started it) - no one ever suggested either of those locations was "wrong" so they must both be "right" ????
Then again - given the complexities around FNRttC's insurance and club status etc... it's hardly an "informal ride" any more, even though it's ethos is very much informal.
And wouldnt "Charity Rides" be better as a sub-forum of Road Rides? Sportives often seem to end up in there.
Sorry - this is starting to ramble a bit.... but what I'm getting at is that rather than simply creating FNRttC as a sub-forum of "informal rides" it might be better for the two sections to be combined & re-organised somehow ?
.... still, I'll be happy with whatever Shaun decides.
Given the population density around the capital city I don't think that's disproportionate.
As someone who is thinking of organising a small-scale event (shameless plug) - I wouldnt wan't the hassle of putting together a huge thing like FNRttC or even LD's "Dirty Weekend" - I'm not over concerned either way. As people comment and my plans develop there will be posts - and the thread thus "bumped" up among the FNRttC stuff quite adequately.
One thind I have always found odd.... the boundaries between what goes in Informal rides and what goes in Road,Audax, Sportive are sometimes not obvious - and yet one goes in "Bikes & Cycling" and the other in "Community". For example IOW Randonee... last year it was in "Informal Rides", this year in t'other one (I know - I started it) - no one ever suggested either of those locations was "wrong" so they must both be "right" ????
Then again - given the complexities around FNRttC's insurance and club status etc... it's hardly an "informal ride" any more, even though it's ethos is very much informal.
And wouldnt "Charity Rides" be better as a sub-forum of Road Rides? Sportives often seem to end up in there.
Sorry - this is starting to ramble a bit.... but what I'm getting at is that rather than simply creating FNRttC as a sub-forum of "informal rides" it might be better for the two sections to be combined & re-organised somehow ?
.... still, I'll be happy with whatever Shaun decides.
GrumpyGregry
Here for rides.
some of us only joined this forum in the first place because of FNRttC
Of course since then we've discovered that CC is a veritable 'cave of wonders' but......
Of course since then we've discovered that CC is a veritable 'cave of wonders' but......
Dayvo
just passin' through
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Please don't feel obliged to post on here because you're one of the FNRttC regulars!
It would be interesting to know where your 'but' leads to!