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How many of you (us) would find it use full to have firstaid training, as riders, my self im first aid trained and had to use it on the road several times, about 2 week ago rider was knocked off and sufferd a dislocated wrist, my training helped, till the real guys got there, i had a guy that had been ko'd by a ladder hanging off a van, again training helped, and a nasty incident where a woman had been thrown off the back of a motorbike and was hit by and following lorry, as a first aider im sorry to say there was nothing i could do (sparing all the details only her leathers and helmet kept her contained) but the training helped me what to expexct and control the situation.................. Being a first aider even at a basic level can help save a mates life or a fellow rider.. are any of you guys trained ?..Mark
 

gaz

Cycle Camera TV
Location
South Croydon
I was trained several years ago, but from my knowledge, you should get re-trained every year to be a valid first aider.
 

JamesAC

Senior Member
Location
London
You certainly don't need to be trained every year to be a First Aider at Work, or what ever it's called these days. Once every four ??

However, learning the basics of how to keep people alive for the first few minutes until the paramedics arrive doesn't take a lot of hard work, and can be (literally) a life saver.


btw, I was wondering what one might keep in a do-it-yourself first aid kit, and I came up with:


Copy of Daily Mail
Tin of full strength (not diet) Coke
Length of bubble wrap
Length of cling film
Credit card
Gaffer tape
Bottle of urine.
oh yes .. triangular bandage.

What do you think?
 

CopperBrompton

Bicycle: a means of transport between cake-stops
Location
London
I've had to give first-aid at more accidents than I can remember, but then that does include eight years of motorsports.

IMV, absolutely everyone should be qualified in emergency aid at an absolute minimum: it takes two hours, so there's no excuse for not doing it.
 

Mark_Robson

Senior Member
I've been a first aider for most of my adult life. Refresher training has been done on a three year cycle but from this year anyone who needs to renew their training will be doing one day per year as opposed to the two day refreshers that they have done in the past.

I have only had to administer first aid a handful of times while I've been out cycling but I always carry a small first aid kit in my cycling rucksack and a more substantial one in the car.

Best first aid moment, delivering a baby ( unplanned birth of my daughter )
Worst first aid moment, unsuccessfully trying to resuscitate a work mate using CPR.
 
It all depends on your personal feelings.

What you are doing is fine.... most first aid simply requires gaining help and reassurance

I know that often people have greater expectations, but first aid is limited in what it can do and achieve. It was one of the points I used to make on a regular basis when I taught

Contact your local Red Cross or St John Ambulance and chat with them
 
First Aid for work has to be renewed every 3 years, or 'topped up' more often, preferably with day a year. I had my 3rd renewal a month ago as Mark says.

I confess to using the lessons far more outside work than inside, despite them paying for the last 9years of my qualification. It does make you feel a bit less helpless and more in control when something happens.

Most of the techniques used to be taught in school but now aren't, so people tend to be less confident. My instructor told me that death by choking is increasing massively due to people not knowing what to do, also because more and more people live alone.

Very useful to have, especially if you are around kids at all.
 

summerdays

Cycling in the sun
Location
Bristol
At my previous job I was one of the official "First Aiders at Work" (can't remember the official title - it was a 4 day course, with 2 day refreshers) - and luckily the only things I ever did was hand out plasters, and headache tablets (yes I know not in my official capacity but they all assumed that I would have them as the First Aider, and I did have my personal supply). There were also 2 diabetics, one more unstable than the other - and any time he had problems usually the other guy would step in and deal with it.

I also have to have First Aid training in my current job - renewed every 3 years I think (I know I'm booked on a course later this year - although they have decided we need to be on a different course to the one I've done previously).

And all my children are in St John's (more for the social side of things I suspect), but with the added benefit of learning First Aid.
 
I have been first aid trained since I was 14, believe me it was a long time ago!
Have used it many times, some successful some not.

So many lives can be saved every year, with even just a little knowledge. Something as simple as making sure a casualty has an airway can mean the deference between life and death.

I am great believer in FA being taught compulsory in schools. Get rid of religious education and teach something worthwhile.
 

Matthames

Über Member
Location
East Sussex
At the place I volunteer at I have done first aid training. One of the things that was pressed home is like Cunobelin said, the scope of what you can do and achieve is limited. The most important thing you can do is to dial 999 and get the wheels of professional help in motion. What they teach you is really basic life support, which can mean the difference between somebody living or dying.

I always carry a small first aid kit with me on the bike. It is kitted out to treat any minor injuries I would expect whilst out on the bike. Things like plasters, bandages and insect bite cream.
 

Chrisz

Über Member
Location
Sittingbourne
I've been FA trained for years and had to use it on numerous occasions - including dealing with gunshot wounds, snake bites, knife/glass wounds, broken bones/dislocations etc. I still find that I don't actually like doing First Aid though!
 

Chrisz

Über Member
Location
Sittingbourne
LOL. Not quite - spent a fair bit of time playing in green pyjamas in some fairly rough places, worked as a doorman in some even rougher places (including Hackney!) and now work as a Sports Lecturer (so a fair few injuries when students get 'over enthusiastic :smile:)
 

CopperBrompton

Bicycle: a means of transport between cake-stops
Location
London
LOL. Not quite - spent a fair bit of time playing in green pyjamas in some fairly rough places, worked as a doorman in some even rougher places (including Hackney!)
Blimey, I bet the Marines seemed like a soft touch compared to being a doorman in Hackney!
 

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