EV Owners Thread

[CXRAndy]

I was really worried so looked into this major fault before going on my journey

"In certain circumstances when Autosteer is engaged, the prominence and scope of the feature's controls may not be sufficient to prevent driver misuse of the SAE Level 2 advanced driver-assistance feature,

SAE level 2 systems require drivers to maintain attention

Phew, Im ok

 

[classic33]

I class it on the same level of concern as when mobile phone manufacturers send out patch update for security breach. The vast majority of users never had a problem, they just receive an update, carry on with life.

The difference between the naysayers and owners of Tesla cars, is that we know the car has deficiencies, accept them, enjoy the EV experience.

How many have we had of these major concerns with headline recalls. My vehicle hasn't been near a Tesla dealer in years, improvements just keep being downloaded in the background.

If mobile phone was subject to as many recalls as the Tesla vehicle range, especially one ordered by a court*, it'd have been long gone by now. Before the instruction to fix or remove all from the road.

*It was classed as unsafe for use, due to it's main selling point, the "auto drive".

 

[classic33]

I was really worried so looked into this major fault before going on my journey

"In certain circumstances when Autosteer is engaged, the prominence and scope of the feature's controls may not be sufficient to prevent driver misuse of the SAE Level 2 advanced driver-assistance feature,

SAE level 2 systems require drivers to maintain attention

Phew, Im ok

What about other road users though, now you think you don't have to maintain attention whilst driving?

 

[icowden]

Well they've a week to get the "over the air updates" done. After that the insurance on them, because they're known to be unsafe(court case and subsequent court order), will be invalid.

The driver is driving a vehicle that has been legally classed as unsafe.

Except the vehicle hasn't been classed as unsafe. Small detail. Oh - and as I said - it's an OTA update. It will take a few hours probably to push out to all cars. Maybe as many as 24 hours across the world.

 

[icowden]

If mobile phone was subject to as many recalls as the Tesla vehicle range, especially one ordered by a court*, it'd have been long gone by now. Before the instruction to fix or remove all from the road.

Again - nonsense. My phone has had multiple software updates over the air. it has never been classed as unsafe.

 

[icowden]

It was classed as unsafe for use, due to it's main selling point, the "auto drive".

No it wasn't.

Problem Description:
Tesla, Inc. (Tesla) is recalling 2012-2023 Model S, 2016-2023 Model X, 2017-2023 Model 3, and 2020-2023 Model Y vehicles equipped with all versions of Autosteer leading up to the version(s) that contains the recall remedy. In certain circumstances when Autosteer is engaged, the prominence and scope of the feature's controls may not be sufficient to prevent driver misuse of the SAE Level 2 advanced driver-assistance feature.

Consequence:
In certain circumstances when Autosteer is engaged, and the driver does not maintain responsibility for vehicle operation and is unprepared to intervene as necessary or fails to recognize when Autosteer is canceled or not engaged, there may be an increased risk of a crash.

Remedy:
Tesla will release an over-the-air (OTA) software update, free of charge. Owner notification letters are expected to be mailed February 10, 2024. Owners may contact Tesla customer service at 1-877-798-3752. Tesla's number for this recall is SB-23-00-008.

 

[icowden]

What about other road users though, now you think you don't have to maintain attention whilst driving?

It's almost like they designed a system which checks for other road users and what they are doing and causes the car to act in a safer way than human drivers...

 

[cougie uk]

TBF to Tesla I've yet to see them appear on those dash cam compilations on YouTube with the car being responsible for the bad driving.

 

[classic33]

No it wasn't.

Nearly 1,000 crashes in which it's use was cited as a possible factor.
Which is why the court ordered the recall.

Again - nonsense. My phone has had multiple software updates over the air. it has never been classed as unsafe.

Has your phone ever been subject to a court based recall, due to being unsafe though?

Quick search shows batteries in handsets, was the main reason for warnings being issued.

 

[classic33]

It's almost like they designed a system which checks for other road users and what they are doing and causes the car to act in a safer way than human drivers...

But that system has been found in a court of law to be unsafe in use.

 

[CXRAndy]

I personally wouldn't class it unsafe. Don't forget it's the USA, litigation country. It's just warnings to make the numpty driver aware of the cars status.

I will have driven two hundred miles today and car felt no worse or better than it did last I drove it

 

[icowden]

But that system has been found in a court of law to be unsafe in use.

When and where?

 

[slowmotion]

You would think so, but Tesla's innovative automotive design for software controlled system allows rapid rollout for bugfixes, updates etc.

The whole 2 million vehicles will have the update in a matter of weeks.

There has been at least 6 updates for various updates and bugfixes in the last month, it's no big deal

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I'm sure that must be a huge comfort to all the dead drivers and passengers.

 

[lazybloke]

My vehicle hasn't been near a Tesla dealer in years, improvements just keep being downloaded in the background.

So earlier this year when you mentioned getting your Model 3 creaking top wishbone joint sorted...

Amazing what you can download these days!

 

[CXRAndy]

So earlier this year when you mentioned getting your Model 3 creaking top wishbone joint sorted...

Amazing what you can download these days!

Back in 2021 when my wife's Tesla had the wishbone done. I know it was that far back because we are coming upto 2 years where we live now.

You could argue that 2 or more is year/S