elite powermag trainer

[adam23]

got my trainer today had a quick go to check set up and tonight will give it a proper run, have to say bit odd at first
to get used to but great after a couple of mins as its not quite the same as road riding but should improve fitness over the winter.

quick question has anyone got some training dvds i may borrow or reccomend some to use.

 

[Hugo15]

Have a look at http://www.thesufferfest.com/ They get good feedback and are fairly cheap.

 

[Triathlon Week]

got my trainer today had a quick go to check set up and tonight will give it a proper run, have to say bit odd at first
to get used to but great after a couple of mins as its not quite the same as road riding but should improve fitness over the winter.

quick question has anyone got some training dvds i may borrow or reccomend some to use.

I'm not a huge fan on trainers, it always feels like riding in quicksand. But as you said it's a great way to stay fit during winter. I've tried rollers, but you have to pay attention so you don't end up falling over in front of your TV

 

[jimboalee]

In the documentation for your Elite Powermag, does it give curves of Power vs speed for each of the settings?

 

[adam23]

jim: no there were no graphs or anythng in the box, it would be nice to have a speedo of some sort as well but the models
with all the extra gadgets were so much more.

 

[jimboalee]

jim: no there were no graphs or anythng in the box, it would be nice to have a speedo of some sort as well but the models
with all the extra gadgets were so much more.

Hmmm..

The speedo will be the one on your bike with the magnet and pick-up on the rear wheel.

Its a long labourious process calibrating each resistance setting against how a bike will feel on a flat road and up gradients.

It can be done, but I won't bore the other readers to tears explaining.

 

[zacklaws]

there were no graphs or anythng in the box

I bought the Elite Chrono mag and once again there was no graphs in the instruction etc, but they were printed on the outside of the box, and now that I want them myself, I do not have them as I have thrown the box away.

 

[amaferanga]

To train with power you need a power meter. Don't waste your time trying to draw power curves. Any curve provided by the manufacturer will be a generic one so your actual turbo could be very different.

 

[screenman]

Speedo and HRM should give you a good indication. If you are taking the bike on and off the turbo it is worth calibrating it every so often, spin the wheel up to 10 mph and time how long it takes to stop, this will give you your reference points for following setups.

Normally unless the turbo has a sprung loaded roller like the CS-1000 has the shape of the back wheel can create a choppy feel, a slightly egg shaped wheel will not show up on the road but on a fixed roller turbo it certainly will. Why you may ask, simple it varies the amount of pressure on the roller, which in turn varies the resistance.

 

[jimboalee]

Speedo and HRM should give you a good indication. If you are taking the bike on and off the turbo it is worth calibrating it every so often, spin the wheel up to 10 mph and time how long it takes to stop, this will give you your reference points for following setups.

Normally unless the turbo has a sprung loaded roller like the CS-1000 has the shape of the back wheel can create a choppy feel, a slightly egg shaped wheel will not show up on the road but on a fixed roller turbo it certainly will. Why you may ask, simple it varies the amount of pressure on the roller, which in turn varies the resistance.

Do this between 20 and 10 mph and compare it to what your bike actually does on the road.

The Elite Powermag has eight settings?

 

[screenman]

I was just saying how to calibrate it so that each time you used the turbo you had the same base to start from. I was taught this by a turbo guru, so I cannot claim it as my idea, not that I have any.

 

[jimboalee]

For the purposes of Bicycle turbo trainers, the manufacturer will have engineered the lowest setting to be a simulation of a pro raceboy on a UCI weight limit race bike on level ground with no additional headwind.

When another bike is strapped down, it becomes a 15lb racebike and you become a 70 kg whippet.



Then, you can compare your performance directly with Prologue TT results from major tours.

 

[jimboalee]

For the purposes of Bicycle turbo trainers, the manufacturer will have engineered the lowest setting to be a simulation of a pro raceboy on a UCI weight limit race bike on level ground with no additional headwind.

When another bike is strapped down, it becomes a 15lb racebike and you become a 70 kg whippet.



Then, you can compare your performance directly with Prologue TT results from major tours.

Thinking again, the lowest setting could be an ultra streamlined track bike being ridden by the 70 kg whippet in a skin suit.

In which case, the aim is to beat the 4km pursuit record, or even the hour record.

 

[amaferanga]

Speedo and HRM should give you a good indication. If you are taking the bike on and off the turbo it is worth calibrating it every so often, spin the wheel up to 10 mph and time how long it takes to stop, this will give you your reference points for following setups.

Normally unless the turbo has a sprung loaded roller like the CS-1000 has the shape of the back wheel can create a choppy feel, a slightly egg shaped wheel will not show up on the road but on a fixed roller turbo it certainly will. Why you may ask, simple it varies the amount of pressure on the roller, which in turn varies the resistance.

Many Elite turbos, including this one I think, use the riders weight to provide the pressure needed on the roller, unlike with conventional turbos where you clamp the wheel. So all you can really do to make sure the resistance is as repeatable as possible is keep your tyre pressure the same (and not gain any weight).

 

[amaferanga]

For the purposes of Bicycle turbo trainers, the manufacturer will have engineered the lowest setting to be a simulation of a pro raceboy on a UCI weight limit race bike on level ground with no additional headwind.

When another bike is strapped down, it becomes a 15lb racebike and you become a 70 kg whippet.



Then, you can compare your performance directly with Prologue TT results from major tours.

Really?