Electronic Dura Ace in the shops January

[Smokin Joe]

Start saving -

http://www.velonews.com/article/81107/shimano-s-electronic-dura-ace

Luddites may now begin foaming at the mouth

 

[yenrod]

Technically these components will be totally light - as they'll have NO metal in them, near enough.

Wonder if the 'old stuff' will be drop in price - drastically ! :?::?:

The bottom item is the battery

 

[Joe]

From BR:


"And how much will Dura-Ace Di2 7970 cost? US pricing is still to be finalized but the tentative UK costs should at least provide some indication. Let’s be frank; it’ll be expensive:

• STI Dual Control levers - £349.99/pair
• Rear derailleur - £349.99
• Front derailleur - £249.99
• Cable set - £99.99
• Battery - £49.99
• Charger - £49.99
• Chainset (Dura Ace FC7900) - £319.99
• Cassette - £129.99"

*falls over*

 

[yenrod]

F££k ME for a laff

£1699.92 worth of gear

 

[alecstilleyedye]

fine if your a pro and can be sure that your mechanic will have topped up the battery, with a new bike in the team car should things go pear shaped.

imagine the idiot you'll look on the club run when you have to go the rest of the way in a stupidly hight/low gear (as the law of sod will dictate) when the battery dies. spare, oh i forgot to charge it…

when it comes down to a sensible price and uses easily sourced batteries (such as in your computer) or (more practically) works off a hub dynamo (but isn't that adding more weight?) let me know.

i won't be making the move to 11 any time soon either, marketing folks

edit: why the need for cable? electrical wires perhaps, or wouldn't a wireless setup be better (just imagining the fun that the systems interfering with each other will cause in a bunch) for time trialling?

 

[yenrod]

fine if your a pro and can be sure that your mechanic will have topped up the battery, with a new bike in the team car should things go pear shaped.

imagine the idiot you'll look on the club run when you have to go the rest of the way in a stupidly hight/low gear (as the law of sod will dictate) when the battery dies. spare, oh i forgot to charge it…

when it comes down to a sensible price and uses easily sourced batteries (such as in your computer) or (more practically) works off a hub dynamo (but isn't that adding more weight?) let me know.

i won't be making the move to 11 any time soon either, marketing folks

edit: why the need for cable? electrical wires perhaps, or wouldn't a wireless setup be better (just imagining the fun that the systems interfering with each other will cause in a bunch) for time trialling?

Supposedly - a wireless system drains a battery faster !

 

[Tynan]

noob question I'm sure but what's for?

how easy is shifting gears supposed to be or is there more to it then that

 

[RedBike]

I fancy changing; just not at those prices!

 

[fossyant]

Ohh great for gadget freaks.......... hmm lets see what price good ole DA 7900 comes out, cos that's not going to be cheap either. I don't think it's half as nice as 7800 ? Not too keen on the new Record Groups either - not as nice as Record 10 !!!

 

[yello]

I have enough of a problem with the battery in my mobile phone.

 

[fossyant]

We all know the jokes about batteries - you try a Windows mobile phone - crap - you'll get 2 days out of it max with light use......

This stuff weighs more than the mechanical stuff - not convinced it's any better than STI /ERGO - I only have STI on my commuter MTB - it's still slower than my SIS down tube shifters doing a double shift !!

 

[yenrod]

We all know the jokes about batteries - you try a Windows mobile phone - crap - you'll get 2 days out of it max with light use......

This stuff weighs more than the mechanical stuff - not convinced it's any better than STI /ERGO - I only have STI on my commuter MTB - it's still slower than my SIS down tube shifters doing a double shift !!

A little lubrication perhaps !

 

[Globalti]

Cor! Wot a bunch of old fusties we are on this forum!

Remember the first mobile phones and how big, expensive and clumsy they were? Shimano has 4000 employees, of whom 400 are working in R&D; you can be sure they are already working on the next generation. Give it a few years and this system will begin to look affordable and more attrcative than the traditional mechanical systems.

But I won't be buying one. Yet.

 

[roadiewill]

noob question I'm sure but what's for?

how easy is shifting gears supposed to be or is there more to it then that

ditto whats the big advantage???


iirc a member of gerolsteiner was using this stuff on the tour de france and it screwed up and he had to stay in the highest gear whilst going up a long hill. HA

 

[dodgy]

ditto whats the big advantage???


iirc a member of gerolsteiner was using this stuff on the tour de france and it screwed up and he had to stay in the highest gear whilst going up a long hill. HA

OK, I'll bite One of the big advantages is that the front mech auto trims, no more rubbing in extreme gears. It's also not too much of a leap to allow these systems to change gear automatically. I hesitate to mention that as I don't want to give some of the flat earthers on here a heart attack (not saying you're a flat earther by the way roadiewill).

Maintenance should be reduced (hopefully, time will tell, but I don't buy unless that is achieved by real world beta testers). Zero cable drag (one of the reasons I went to hydraulic braking on my MTB).

Massively reduced wear on the levers as they are now essentially solid state. For time triallers it's a real boon, satellite shifters open up many possibilities.

It's also really cool (in my opinion), I'm a gadget head so would probably go for this if it proves itself (too scared to be an early adopter for something as critical as this). Battery issues are mostly imagined, as the battery is designed for lengthy periods without recharge (original marketing blurb indicated a Tour De France or perhaps half a TdF can't remember on a single charge).

So there you go, I've admitted it, I think it's bloody great

Dave.