do cateye ld1100 meet bs6102?

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Rohloff_Brompton_Rider

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as the title says. i've googled but can't find anything. just want to be legal in case of an accident. i've put reflectors back on the pedals. just want to be sure cateye lights are actually legal
 

gaz

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South Croydon
having been in an RTA and got the cops involved, they just ask if you have lights, and don't ask for any model.
 

marinyork

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I believe they are legal. They are also the best "standard" light on the market (there are plenty of non-standard lights on the market that are much brighter).
 
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Rohloff_Brompton_Rider

Rohloff_Brompton_Rider

Formerly just_fixed
but bs6102 is quite simple and they either legal / comply or illegal. if they are illegal you can be sure a slimy lawyer will get the drivers insurance company off the hook
 

marinyork

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I can't recall what it says on the back (as the frigging mount has worn down so I had to cable tie it on, however I believe it meets one of the regs) and the BS you quote isn't the only one http://www.ctc.org.uk/DesktopDefault.aspx?TabID=4071

It's not actually simple at all.

Out of interest where did you buy the reflectors from? I've been looking for a good couple of years for somewhere that sells them.

P.S. If you're going to be really paranoid I reckon that if I were rammed from the back and seriously injured and that if that someone wanted to get off they would simply nick my lights and claim that they didn't see me. All they need is a screwdrive/pair of scissors or just simply pick it up and lob the light in the bushes. Cops turn up and they rant and rave about the NINJA.
 
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Rohloff_Brompton_Rider

Rohloff_Brompton_Rider

Formerly just_fixed
i git the pedal reflectors from a raleigh dealer for £2.50 for 8. bs 6102 is the only standard applicable on a bike used on a road. it's actually after reading ctc's site that i'm wondering. i'm gunna have a look at the light later.
 
Even more complex than that!

The Road Vehicle Lighting Regulations (2005) have superseded the BS6201/3 and it is possible to have lights that comply with the RVLR and fail to meet the British Standards. It is also possible to have a light such as the AU100 which carries the BS kitemark, but for the reflector,and NOT for the light

Most Cateyes are advertised as "RVLR compliant" so I guess tha answer is that the light is listed as such, it is legal as it complies with RVLR.
 

Will1985

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Location
South Norfolk
Shouldn't be a problem - anyone who fails to see such a retina burning light needs their eyes tested. As said above, the police don't appear to care as long as you have working lights.
 

sbseven

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To answer your question, the LD1100 doesn't meet BS6102/3 standards. Not many 'good' lights do.

The LD1100 packaging says:
For UK Customers: When used for cycling, this light should be used in conjunction with a British Standard 6102/3 cycle light.

But, as others have said, I wouldn't worry about it.

The Cateye TL-AU100BS does meet BS6102/3 (in non-flashing mode).

If you want a cheap rear BS6102/3 light to run along side your preferred option then try here.

Shaun
 
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Rohloff_Brompton_Rider

Rohloff_Brompton_Rider

Formerly just_fixed
no win no fee solicitors can really find the smallest of loops to get either the payout lowered or null and voided. i've got another light on the back. i'm going to see if this complies, i think it will as it doesn't have a constant mode. bloody hell tho, a £35 light that is illegal....wish i'd read the article before i bought it. i've had it replaced twice aswell due to it leaking in hard rain.
 

marinyork

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shauncollier said:
no win no fee solicitors can really find the smallest of loops to get either the payout lowered or null and voided. i've got another light on the back. i'm going to see if this complies, i think it will as it doesn't have a constant mode. bloody hell tho, a £35 light that is illegal....wish i'd read the article before i bought it. i've had it replaced twice aswell due to it leaking in hard rain.

You'd be a good boy and be with the CTC and they'd probably take the no win no fee solicitors to the cleaners.

In anycase working lights are not contested in my experience of RTAs.
 

marinyork

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shauncollier said:
i think i will join ctc just for the peace of mind, legal fees are included aren't they?

Yes, you have third party insurance in the case of accidents upto whatever it is £1m, 2? There are alternatives to the CTC like BC if you have issues with the CTC.

PS Surprised you've had water issues with the LD-1100. I've had two and never had this and it's not famous for this unlike say the smart 1/2 (excellent light) that is prone to breaches.
 

andrew_s

Legendary Member
Location
Gloucester
To be legal, a light has to be marked with the BS6102/2 marking, not just meet the published brightness standards. That means submitting it to the fairly expensive testing process, and not many light manufacturers bother. You can use a German light, and be legal under the "or any other equivalent European standard" rule.

I'd recommend having two lights, one to meet the standard, and a bright one.
You really should use two anyway, as otherwise you'll be riding along unlit if one fails.
 
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Rohloff_Brompton_Rider

Rohloff_Brompton_Rider

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i've checked all my cateye lights and none are marked up, neither on the inside or outside. therefore they are illegal unless used in conjunction with a light compliant with bs6102. but neither is my very very expensive hope vision 4 led. so going to have to buy some dirt cheap legal lights so the lights that i have that are not legal but are brighter can used legally. confused? i know i am
 
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