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BSRU

A Human Being
Location
Swindon
A witness claims the light was red, the driver showed no remorse for killing another human being, yet given a suspended sentence:sad:
 

summerdays

Cycling in the sun
Location
Bristol
http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/driver-who-killed-cyclist-stoke-6920344

Ben Williams, defending, said: “It’s a fact of the rules of the road that a cyclist should not be using a pedestrian crossing.”

Judge Phillip Gregory retorted: “So what? It might have been a child using the crossing and been wiped out by your client.
How is the driver to know if it is a pedestrian crossing or a toucan one, I don't think it would have made any difference to her driving that day.
 

Pale Rider

Legendary Member
I think it means you will go to prison if you commit another offence in the time period.

Yes, a suspended sentence can be activated in whole or part if another offence is committed within the period of suspension.

This woman - as with a lot of killer drivers - appears to be of previous good character, so the chances of her offending again are remote.
 

MrWill

Well-Known Member
Sad story.

Some people say cyclist shouldn't be on the road, these say shouldn't be using crossings or pavements etc. Impossible situation. There will always be hazardous nobbers on the roads I guess. But many just don't realize that everyone has a right to use the roads. No one has more less right over another to use them to get around.

Always watch what is coming. Even when the crossing says go.
 

MrWill

Well-Known Member
Banned for life would be better, rather than 3 years, after killing someone like that.
 

oldstrath

Über Member
Location
Strathspey
Apparently the judge was 'satisfied she felt remorse', even though he had not seen any, because she says she had prayed for the victim. So that's OK then - she (claims to have) mumbled some meaningless words, in private, and that constitutes remorse.

What on earth (or even in heaven) does it take to get our legal system to realise that claiming to be a Christian, and gurning a bit, does not make up for the lack of competence, consideration, concentration and ability displayed by this woman and many others. Maybe putting her in prison wouldn't be helpful, though it might at least signal intent, but surely scrapping her car and banning her from driver for a long time, preferably for life, would be achievable things?
 

Pale Rider

Legendary Member
By 'previous good character' you mean 'she has previously got away with it'?

Mis-placed cynicism.

I agree someone who appears for burglary may well have done several houses previously without being caught.

But are you seriously suggesting this women has previously wiped out half a dozen cyclists and not been caught for it?
 

StuartG

slower but no further
Location
SE London
This is a societal problem rather than pertinent to this case.

AFAIK the thinking is that permanent bans don't work for bad serial offenders. They just continue to drive without licence hence insurance and probably no MoT. They are just or even more lethal. Suspension for a shorter period might just get them off the road for that period as they know by doing that they will have a right to drive again. Which then gives a problem with 'single event' offenders. You can't suspend them longer than serial offenders.

Its a difficult problem. We don't want these people driving but if taking away a licence permanently doesn't stop them - what to do? No easy answers.
 
Sad story.

Some people say cyclist shouldn't be on the road, these say shouldn't be using crossings or pavements etc. Impossible situation. There will always be hazardous nobbers on the roads I guess. But many just don't realize that everyone has a right to use the roads. No one has more less right over another to use them to get around.

Always watch what is coming. Even when the crossing says go.
FYI, cyclists have a 'right' to use the road. Motorists require qualifications and permissions.
 
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